Escorts could only stay with bombers for 20-40 minutes?

[Vraciu]

sure dude.....I'll be sure to get your opinion next month when i'm doing aerodynamic testing at kennedy space center and need a true expert's opinion over the engineers that will be present.

 

Well I may not be an engineer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

[drgondog]

sure dude.....I'll be sure to get your opinion next month when i'm doing aerodynamic testing at kennedy space center and need a true expert's opinion over the engineers that will be present.

Ah yes - you are correct that I am no longer in the biz relative to hypersonic bodies. That said, I do have a BS/MS in Aero, practiced as an Aero and Airframe Structures engineer at both Lockheed and Bell, as a contractor at Vought and TI - on real aircraft, both recip and jet.

If you want to debate drag analysis methods and performance - step into the discussion and be polite.

You have a talent for snide remarks. Didn't you get some form of role model 'pass through' from your father and mother?

[drgondog]

As you are a self appointed expert that has the experience and academic and industry expertise to toss around well honed sneers at my experience and observations in this post, may we have a summary of your airframe design experience?

Perhaps taking a spec for bids, sketches of layouts that seem to fit, research weight fractions, etc for a Conceptual Design discussion - or maybe later in the Detailed Analysis phase?

If you actually have such experience why would you question mine and instead yank out the snide 'Lee Atwood' comment in your very first reply to my posts?

[Oldman731]

It's been a while, but it's still on the forums: This is where I got my 1-2% and 10% rules, and why other aircraft trying to use the Meredith effect were not successful. 

Thanks for posting this, very interesting stuff.

- oldman

[BuckShot]

20 to 40 minutes?

I always thought escorts were by the hour.

[ACE]

20 to 40 minutes?

I always thought escorts were by the hour.

This guy gets it.

[Vraciu]

20 to 40 minutes?

I always thought escorts were by the hour.

Don't forget about the overnight discount.   

[drgondog]

The rate goes up for 'overnight'

[Serenity]

The rate goes up for 'overnight'

Not necessarily, it's usually a flat rate, so it's up to you to get your money's worth...

[MiloMorai]

Not necessarily, it's usually a flat rate, so it's up to you to get your money's worth...

You know this how?

[ACE]

The rate goes up for 'overnight'

Well damn..

[Hajo]

I'm not paying for anything that is flat.

[drgondog]

Vraciu - did you ever verify the AAF Flight test cruise data for P-38F/G/H vs P-51A and B that I presented from Dean's 'America's 100 Thousand?

[icepac]

As you are a self appointed expert that has the experience and academic and industry expertise to toss around well honed sneers at my experience and observations in this post, may we have a summary of your airframe design experience?

Perhaps taking a spec for bids, sketches of layouts that seem to fit, research weight fractions, etc for a Conceptual Design discussion - or maybe later in the Detailed Analysis phase?

If you actually have such experience why would you question mine and instead yank out the snide 'Lee Atwood' comment in your very first reply to my posts?

Atwood did not quantify beyond simply stating "all the cooling drag" when other sources put it at 90% or less.

He also made no distinction between "cooling drag" and "radiator drag"......or whether he was referencing the drag of the ducting...........or whether he addressed the addition to the frontal area of the airplane.

It is his article that is parroted over and over across the entire internet whenever meredith effect is mentioned and I don't believe the article shows enough data points to be worthy of said parroting.

And while we're at it.............no, the racing P51s are not adding "boundary layer bumps" but rather reshaping the profile of the wing.

[Vraciu]

Not necessarily, it's usually a flat rate, so it's up to you to get your money's worth...

I can confirm that the rate goes down.  The more you buy the cheaper per hour.  There's this one gal in Prague...