P61 PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lunatic1]

we don't need no stinking Nightfighter--besides our nights are only 30 mins long
 

[bozon]

Not very fast though, 366mph @ 20k. But about equal to the Moss 6 and 110G.

you are comparing to a 1943, low altitude fighter - bomber. The mossie night fighters, especially the p61 contemporaries like the NF.30 could do well over 400 mph.

[Sabre]

+1 on the P-61. One of the first model airplanes I built was a Black Widow. Would love to be able to fly one in AH. Probably not my top priority, but would certainly welcome it's addition. Would be cool if the radar worked to put enemy icons of in-range nme's on the map for all friendlies to see. It would not be 360-deg coverage, but rather illuminate in a moving wedge ahead of your a/c. Of course, this would likely put an incredible strain on the server/bandwidth, but it would still be cool to be able to use it as a limited capability AWACS, when your local dar is down.

[Skuzzy]

<snip> Of course, this would likely put an incredible strain on the server/bandwidth, ....<snip>

No, it wouldn't.

[Sabre]

No, it wouldn't.

AH, so we can take that as a definite "maybe"!

[Chalenge]

. . . but it would still be cool to be able to use it as a limited capability AWACS, when your local dar is down.

You're inventing a technology that did not exist in WWII. The aircraft crew had no way to share their radar screen, so it comes down to sharing information over vox.

[Ramesis]

Rather than new aircraft and vehicles, let HTC take care of the
existing problems of AHIII 

[Owlblink]

You're inventing a technology that did not exist in WWII. The aircraft crew had no way to share their radar screen, so it comes down to sharing information over vox.

That is true, but neither should we be able to pull up a clipboard in flight giving us a radar view of where our enemies and allies are.

I had a similar suggestion for the radar effect before on a P61, accept using it as a function for scenarios or for revealing enemy CVs and planes to allies within a close enough distance to the P61 (so not across the clipboard for everyone but those within, say, the same sector).
 The plane would just be cool to have, none the less. Doesn't have to be "soon," but be cool to have access to someday.

[Sabre]

That is true, but neither should we be able to pull up a clipboard in flight giving us a radar view of where our enemies and allies are.

I had a similar suggestion for the radar effect before on a P61, accept using it as a function for scenarios or for revealing enemy CVs and planes to allies within a close enough distance to the P61 (so not across the clipboard for everyone but those within, say, the same sector).
 The plane would just be cool to have, none the less. Doesn't have to be "soon," but be cool to have access to someday.

Beat me to it, Owl. The function of the radar/dar-bar and clipboard map in AH is not to emulate the technology of the day, but to promote combat. It provides much greater info and fidelity than the systems of the day were capable of, with instantaneous, theater-wide dissemination of that info. One piece of info I wish it did provide is a rough altitude estimate (perhaps when you hover over it with the mouse). As I recall, even early radar could provide this, though I may be mistaken. And unless we're willing to "bring on the night" in a realistic way in AH (with all it's attendant down-side, the capability I'm proposing is about the only way I can think of to make night-fighters relevant in this game.

[bustr]

P61 radar operational range is about equal to the game's max range for seeing an icon. Which means you are picking up on the scope what the player will see at about the same moment of contact. The simplest solution to giving you an illusion of the radar, give each aircraft the ability to see an enemy map dot out to 6000k from your icon on the map.

By the time you see the CV, you have already been in trouble due to auto ack for some time. And night fighters in ww2 due to the limited range of the radar spent more time not finding the enemy while patrolling a likely intrusion area. The radar was the last part of a large effort of support players gathering info on likely places enemy aircraft might be after dark.

The AvA could setup night without the moon and friendly icons only. Then run some ETO night time scenarios with CM's giving VOX or text vectoring info. But, the players being the enemy would fly at 30k or treetop level to hit the target while giving you a single finger salute. Possibly the mission arena could run something like this and the AI would willingly be your sitting ducks flying in level over the Thames on moonless nights or Lancs over Dresden. I don't see players putting up with any of this if they don't have to. And I don't see Hitech forcing them to.

[Sabre]

As noted, nothing about the ground-based radar in AH represents the actual technological capabilities of the day...why should airborne radar in AH be tied to that anchor? In scenarios, sure; allow settings to restrict it to more quasi-realistic operating parameters. No need for this in the MA, where it can be used in the same way that our MA dar is...to find fights and counter the tactic of taking down field dar.

[Ack-Ack]

As noted, nothing about the ground-based radar in AH represents the actual technological capabilities of the day...why should airborne radar in AH be tied to that anchor? In scenarios, sure; allow settings to restrict it to more quasi-realistic operating parameters. No need for this in the MA, where it can be used in the same way that our MA dar is...to find fights and counter the tactic of taking down field dar.

I'm against giving a plane an ability that didn't exist in the war. 

[caldera]

+1 on the P-61. One of the first model airplanes I built was a Black Widow. Would love to be able to fly one in AH. Probably not my top priority, but would certainly welcome it's addition. Would be cool if the radar worked to put enemy icons of in-range nme's on the map for all friendlies to see. It would not be 360-deg coverage, but rather illuminate in a moving wedge ahead of your a/c. Of course, this would likely put an incredible strain on the server/bandwidth, but it would still be cool to be able to use it as a limited capability AWACS, when your local dar is down.

You don't need a P-61 for that when you have cybro.

[bustr]

As noted, nothing about the ground-based radar in AH represents the actual technological capabilities of the day...why should airborne radar in AH be tied to that anchor? In scenarios, sure; allow settings to restrict it to more quasi-realistic operating parameters. No need for this in the MA, where it can be used in the same way that our MA dar is...to find fights and counter the tactic of taking down field dar.

It is a short range radar that relied on as much as luck or knowing from intel and previous experience where intruders "might" be coming into an area after dark. It's range is equal to when you would first see the enemy red Icon. At which point you don't need it's radar because you will see the icon and can report your contact location on range and text. And that is 3k farther than you get in FSO or Special Events. You will not be like an AWAC feeding the night time MA special info.

[Sabre]

You don't need a P-61 for that when you have cybro.

Not familiar with the term, "cybro". Bustr, perhaps you missed the point I made about radar in AH. I'm well aware of what both ground based and airborne radar was capable of during this historical period. My suggestion  applies primarily to MA game-play, as I stated. As far as Ack-Ack's comment, there are too many examples that already exist of unrealistic capabilities to list here. But, peace...It's called the "Wishlist" forum for a reason.