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Hans

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« on: May 21, 2000, 04:13:00 AM »
The WarBirds scoring system might be similar to what HTC has planned, then again it might not.

Anyways.

WarBirds had/has a scoring multiplier between 1 to 5.  It was changed day by day by the server computer.  A multiplier isn't some arbitratry and fixed number.  If the plane isn't flown often, the server started to increase the multiplier slowly.  It is dynamic.  Its based on popularity of the design.  The more popular a plane was, the worse its multiplier became.  A vicious circle.  

Spitfires and Focke Wulf 190-D9s almost always were 1.0 or 1.1 for their multiplier.  They were pretty popular planes.  P-39 Aircobras and Ki-43s were rare, but also often had multipliers of 5.0 in their favor.

Thus if Ace-of-Aces flys his Spitfire IX and shoots down 10 enemy planes, I can get match his score by flying a seldom used Me109G-6 by only shooting down 2 enemies.

The end result?  We're going to see less of the common fighters and more of the second rate ones flying around.  More diversity.  I personnally observed this phenomena myself when the score multiplier was installed into Warbirds.  It was, well....neat.    Alot of the second rate planes were appearing more regularily.

Also,  If you bail out/ditch over friendly territory you loose half your points you scored that sortie.  If you are captured in enemy territory you loose 2/3 of your sortie's points.  If your killed, you loose 90% of the points you just scored that hop.

There was also a kill-streak bonus.  Your kill streak was added to any points you score each sortie.

I would like to scrape that kill streak bonus in favor of a Sortie streak bonus.  If you can kill multiple enemies in one hop, then you should get more and more points for each successive kill that trip out.  Why?  Well, because killing multiple enemies in one sortie is hard.   I rate a multiple kill sortie as more impressive than a long kill streak.

Hanz.

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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2000, 04:32:00 AM »
 
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I rate a multiple kill sortie as more impressive than a long kill streak.

Hanz.

Allow me to disagree. One lucky sortie where you end up in cannon Hog, vulching one helpless newbie is no skill.

Of course, you can't vulch so effectively in planes like 202 or single 20mm 109 (you get million assists).

Landing multiple missions ranks higher, imo.

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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2000, 04:46:00 AM »
Your right.

In fact I would suggest that this game not have ANY kill streak bonus.  You don't need one.  Getting the points and returning them to base to get full credit alone would be enough.

In the WarBirds system I think the kill streak bonus was an attempt to get players to try for kill streaks, that bonus being the reward.

Well, this time the reward is eventually getting enough points to take a Super plane out for a spin.  A kill streak bonus isn't needed, and if it is still included will probably only aid aces.  Thats bad in my opinion.  Aces don't need that help.

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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2000, 05:06:00 AM »
Warbirds is also now awarding kills for planes that ditch!  


I'm also the worlds bigest fan of the kill streak  
didn't matter if you got a kill every sortie or more than one in a sortie... just how many kills you got before being killed.
I personally would fly to streak if a streak was counter for current streak and best streak was implemented  
It was just a lot of fun and very challenging.

oh and...

Kills For Ditchers!  

brought to you by the KFDPA.
(Kills for Ditchers Pilots Association)

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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2000, 06:54:00 AM »
I'd love to see a score multiplier based on popularity.  The more a plane is flown, the lower the multiplier.

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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2000, 09:25:00 AM »
Personal claim to fame - I've landed a five-kill sortie in a La-5 (no vulching!)...

But I agree with Hristo - streak is the only real indicator how good you are as a (virtual) fighter pilot. Good pilots live long and prosper. The rest of us feed them  .

Penalizing for ditching not on enemy territory is (IMHO) totally wrong. You killed the bad guys, you survived - you come back to continue fighting your war. Why deduct anything?

I can't imagine George Bush being told that his last sortie didn't count cuz he managed to get shot down and rescued by US sub.

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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2000, 09:41:00 AM »
Note to minority AGW posters: No flames to anyone bringing up another online sim to this BBS.  

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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2000, 10:18:00 AM »
 
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streak is the only real indicator how good you are as a (virtual) fighter pilot

Baloney.    

Streak only indicates how much a virtual fighter pilot cares about dying.  I find it's a lot more entertaining to take risks and fly like a maniac sometimes.

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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2000, 10:27:00 AM »
 
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 Baloney.    
 I find it's a lot more entertaining to take risks and fly like a maniac sometimes.

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Ding Ding Ding, "We have a winner!"

Any given day, any vet  of online sims can get a streak going, and finish top 10 by A) stay higher than opposition, B)Fly a plane that can outrun everyone, C)Never take unwarrented risks.

IMO.


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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2000, 10:45:00 AM »
...and like in WB scoring system.
more money you have to be online->
more kills you have ->
more points you have->
better planes you get

not with me!!!!!

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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2000, 12:59:00 AM »

Hans

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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2000, 05:35:00 AM »
 
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...and like in WB scoring system.
more money you have to be online->
more kills you have ->
more points you have->
better planes you get

not with me!!!!!

Say what?

Uh, don't we all pay $30 a month?

Besides, I don't think you understand the concept yet.

All "normal" airplanes are still going to be available at all times.

Only a select few planes are going to be the "Uber" planes.   These are the various Jet fighters and such.  Any plane that its so obviously good that it is too good.  Those few will be the restricted, bonus planes.

When you've scored enough points, you get a ride in a super plane.

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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2000, 08:03:00 AM »
RIP: I'd say not .. not ANY vet .. i'm flying Online-sims since 4 years now .. my highest streak was 35 i think .. i fly for straeks -> K/D ratio and i'v logged several hundred hours in those sims i flew ...

DOH i must be stupid  

I like the above propsed system as long as it contains variants ->

e.g. F4U-1C having another multiplier than the 1D!

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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2000, 11:02:00 AM »
HI HANS!!

well, i've to pay for my internet/phone
connection.
still lot's of money in germany.
jep, we ALL pay 30$, so ERVERYBODY should
be able to fly ALL planes!!.

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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2000, 11:14:00 AM »
  I feel threatened by this topic. It should be in the Off topic forum, this forum is for discussing Aces High, not those other sims  


(sorry I just wanted to say it to see how stupid it looks   )
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