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Re: For the love of all that is holy, please KILL ENY!
« Reply #270 on: January 22, 2017, 02:00:55 PM »
someones not counting the people who don't post on the bbs

Someone missed that being the context of the exchange but even on text chat it's pretty much the same few eeyores. ;)
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Re: For the love of all that is holy, please KILL ENY!
« Reply #271 on: January 22, 2017, 03:10:24 PM »
Way, I'm guessing here only..... ;)

I think that is what Hitech wants POTW to do. It's not like POTW is bosom buddies with green guys when it comes down to it. Knights or rooks so far, they have been just as predictable about letting other green guys die when they could help. How else did we piggies end up saying: "only trust pigs when you need help".

Red guys stay red guys no matter what side we move to. There is a bit of breaking the ice time lag of a few days before the green guys stop acting like we are two weekers or something and talk to us over in the rook country. If we really wanted to mess with the community's heads, we could go bish for a night.....heheheeheheheheeeee ..... :O<---- as this emoticon shows, then we would have smack ourselves with dead fish for a week just to get the smell off. :)
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Re: For the love of all that is holy, please KILL ENY!
« Reply #272 on: January 22, 2017, 03:19:24 PM »
I get ganged in low eny planes just the same as in high eny planes...

ENY is here to stay...

At this point what difference does it make...

Gangtards gonna gang... Targets of opportunity and such... :noid
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Re: For the love of all that is holy, please KILL ENY!
« Reply #273 on: January 22, 2017, 04:00:39 PM »
You'll see the Pigs being regular Rook visitors as long as the night time ENY remains high.

Thats GREAT!!! I would love to fly with the Pigs!

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Re: For the love of all that is holy, please KILL ENY!
« Reply #274 on: January 22, 2017, 04:14:49 PM »
Why not assign a perk cost to fly certain AC when eny is to high.
Formula, County ENY divided by Plane ENY multiplied by 6.
I.E if the "Pawns" have a country ENY of 20 and a certain "Pawn" wants to fly a LA7, 51D, or Spit16 then it would cost 30 perks.[20/5]*6=30. A 109K4 would be [20/15]*6=8. This is just off of the top of my head but it would seem in my opinion to be a fair compromise.


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Re: For the love of all that is holy, please KILL ENY!
« Reply #275 on: January 22, 2017, 04:22:24 PM »
Why not assign a perk cost to fly certain AC when eny is to high.
Formula, County ENY divided by Plane ENY multiplied by 6.
I.E if the "Pawns" have a country ENY of 20 and a certain "Pawn" wants to fly a LA7, 51D, or Spit16 then it would cost 30 perks.[20/5]*6=30. A 109K4 would be [20/15]*6=8. This is just off of the top of my head but it would seem in my opinion to be a fair compromise.

How about multiplied by 50?

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Re: For the love of all that is holy, please KILL ENY!
« Reply #276 on: January 22, 2017, 08:50:33 PM »
DAY 14 IN A ROW, KNIGHTS HAVE ENY IN PRIME TIME!

I know you don't talk to the people who play except in particular settings. So you can see what isn't popping up for you, here is what people are thinking. You have to ask if you want them thinking it about your game.

"this ENY crap, this is unacceptable"
"I thought I paid every month to fly what I wanted, am I wrong?"
"So its on ME to accommodate the bish and rook incompetence????"
"People have complained for years, does no good"
"Not in unison they haven't"
"If we ALL stood up against ENY it would go away, but too many sheeple"
"The only way to stand up against ENY is to leave the game. . . "
"HT pretty much said...he ain't changing ENY"
". . . whats the sense, we can't even fly what we want"
"This is ENY what makes it an arcade game"
"I agree less people in AH because you are punished for wining or getting people to fly on your side"
"Its no difference, its my money MY choice"

I'm not saying you should change it because of what is being said. Really its your choice. I'm saying you should consider changing it because most people don't say, they just leave. People are doing you an EXTRA service if they tell you something you need to hear.

As always you have your choice.

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Re: For the love of all that is holy, please KILL ENY!
« Reply #277 on: January 22, 2017, 09:13:05 PM »
here is what people are thinking.


Good lord, what a bunch of sissies.

I guess that's what it's come to...

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Re: For the love of all that is holy, please KILL ENY!
« Reply #278 on: January 22, 2017, 09:18:38 PM »
DAY 14 IN A ROW, KNIGHTS HAVE ENY IN PRIME TIME!

I know you don't talk to the people who play except in particular settings. So you can see what isn't popping up for you, here is what people are thinking. You have to ask if you want them thinking it about your game.

"this ENY crap, this is unacceptable"
"I thought I paid every month to fly what I wanted, am I wrong?"
"So its on ME to accommodate the bish and rook incompetence????"
"People have complained for years, does no good"
"Not in unison they haven't"
"If we ALL stood up against ENY it would go away, but too many sheeple"
"The only way to stand up against ENY is to leave the game. . . "
"HT pretty much said...he ain't changing ENY"
". . . whats the sense, we can't even fly what we want"
"This is ENY what makes it an arcade game"
"I agree less people in AH because you are punished for wining or getting people to fly on your side"
"Its no difference, its my money MY choice"


I'm not saying you should change it because of what is being said. Really its your choice. I'm saying you should consider changing it because most people don't say, they just leave. People are doing you an EXTRA service if they tell you something you need to hear.

As always you have your choice.

While most of this stuff is crap, fantasy, BS and anything else you want to call it, it IS what people believe in the game. Much like "hacking" accusations this type of rhetoric can and WILL run rampant.

HTC may not want to do anything about ENY, but they should make it know WHAT they are doing. If they don't become a presence here and in the game, more and more people will believe this crap.

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Re: For the love of all that is holy, please KILL ENY!
« Reply #279 on: January 22, 2017, 09:58:37 PM »
Love envy, thanks HiTech!

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Re: For the love of all that is holy, please KILL ENY!
« Reply #280 on: January 22, 2017, 10:11:17 PM »
While most of this stuff is crap, fantasy, BS and anything else you want to call it, it IS what people believe in the game. Much like "hacking" accusations this type of rhetoric can and WILL run rampant.

HTC may not want to do anything about ENY, but they should make it know WHAT they are doing. If they don't become a presence here and in the game, more and more people will believe this crap.
Being on Knights during the almost daily ENY spike you can absolutely see many different players getting frustrated about ENY...I base most of my "This is what I think the community wants" (It's not for certain but it's better then most especially those who don't fly in a squad) off of the opinions I see here, in the MA and off my squad(which makes up a decent percentage of people online on certain nights)...Tons of people got a problem with ENY currently...

Rapier is probably pulling actual quotes from different people on the Knights if he's still flying there.
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Re: For the love of all that is holy, please KILL ENY!
« Reply #281 on: January 23, 2017, 02:44:21 AM »
Since most of those complaining today were not there for the organized squad effort that ended up forcing Hitech to create ENY in the first place. They have no context nor any inclination to see a bigger picture. They also have no experience with events that massive in the MA which would cause them to call up Hitech and cancel their subscription if he didn't take instant draconian measures. ENY today as it impacts players is a minor irritation compared to suddenly being swamped with uber rides at any field you tried to up from as you watched your feilds quickly being shut down then captured all across the terrain. And this went on every sunday like clock work with more players from knights and bish every sunday logging in as rook to be on the side handing out the whippings. Skyyr would have loved being part of that mass whipping event with a double extra wide razer strap with it's own Revi16 HOing guide.

The only thing anyone cares about 14 years later is the "now". They pay their subscription so they want their ride any time they want their ride. It's Hitech's problem to control bad actors and not theirs to suffer today because of some bullcrap from 14 years ago. 14 years ago that attitude is exactly how we got this bullcrap ENY.

Today it would be fun as heck for the younger players to swamp the nits and rooks in uber rides for a weekend making the old farts whine on 200 and rage quit. And finding out they canceled their subscriptions with long nasty forum rants as their farewell would be the high point in those bish AH playing career. And once again it would be waaa Hitech didn't do something, Hitech is a stoopid head. ENY is precisely why it has never happened. Think about skyyr and the following of younger players on the bish who still to this day hoard and HO after following him around and enjoying all the rage antics on 200 about him. Then think about skyyr and them with no ENY. Once the beatings started 14 years ago, it was amazing how many country loyal players jumped ship to the rooks to help hand out beatings. 

The only other answer to policing that kind of bad actor and groups of actors is to replace ENY with MODS and eject power with an attitude and no compassion for any infringement of the rules. Hitech would have to finally lay down rules on us after all these years of no rules.

Many of the players complaining in nit land, and from Rapier's list of their utterances. I have an idea who they are, and have been around them for 14 years now. They just don't like change anymore.  All they want is to login, BS with the same 12 or so guys they have BS'd with for the last 10 years and vulch people for the evening. ENY makes playing the game too much like work for them to achieve the same safe results in lesser ability rides. They can fly the garbage rides, it's just too much effort if it's not FSO or a special event once in awhile.

As far as they are concerned, it's Hitech's job to deal with the reasons that created ENY and keep that bullcrap from bothering them without impacting their fun for their $14.95.

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Re: For the love of all that is holy, please KILL ENY!
« Reply #282 on: January 23, 2017, 02:46:40 AM »




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« Reply #119 on: Yesterday at 09:18:38 PM »


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Quote from: TheRapier on Yesterday at 08:50:33 PM

DAY 14 IN A ROW, KNIGHTS HAVE ENY IN PRIME TIME!

I know you don't talk to the people who play except in particular settings. So you can see what isn't popping up for you, here is what people are thinking. You have to ask if you want them thinking it about your game.

"this ENY crap, this is unacceptable"
"I thought I paid every month to fly what I wanted, am I wrong?"
"So its on ME to accommodate the bish and rook incompetence????"
"People have complained for years, does no good"
"Not in unison they haven't"
"If we ALL stood up against ENY it would go away, but too many sheeple"
"The only way to stand up against ENY is to leave the game. . . "
"HT pretty much said...he ain't changing ENY"
". . . whats the sense, we can't even fly what we want"
"This is ENY what makes it an arcade game"
"I agree less people in AH because you are punished for wining or getting people to fly on your side"
"Its no difference, its my money MY choice"

I'm not saying you should change it because of what is being said. Really its your choice. I'm saying you should consider changing it because most people don't say, they just leave. People are doing you an EXTRA service if they tell you something you need to hear.

As always you have your choice.




While most of this stuff is crap, fantasy, BS and anything else you want to call it, it IS what people believe in the game. Much like "hacking" accusations this type of rhetoric can and WILL run rampant.

HTC may not want to do anything about ENY, but they should make it know WHAT they are doing. If they don't become a presence here and in the game, more and more people will believe this crap.



not fantasy Fugitive-I was part of this conversation-and from now on I will keep my opinion to myself--but trying to keep a fairly new player from quiting the game, because eny kept him from flying the only plane he wants to fly and is not open to flying something different-or changing sides.
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Re: For the love of all that is holy, please KILL ENY!
« Reply #283 on: January 23, 2017, 03:03:33 AM »
i think HiTech would rather be home with family in primetime, if it were possible for someone from HTC to play the game a couple hours a night at cdt prime time, 3 or 4 nights for 1 week to see the problems players here are talking about...and i know being on or around computers all day is the last thing you want to do is be on one at home. was just wondering.


besides ENY doesen't really bother me any way-i fly most different planes anyway with or without eny.being i Knight i would switch to rooks but Knights would probably hate me if i managed to shoot 1 or 2 down-because it's hard to just fight 1 side.

but i know this won't happen--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------^
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Re: Who Loves ENY?
« Reply #284 on: January 23, 2017, 03:58:47 AM »
Cant wait until Caldera get his ENY 60 Zeppelin into melee arean  :P

Can't wait for that.  Hydrogen combat airships are the wave of the future!  :aok
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