Author Topic: From "The German Aces Speak" by Colin D. Heaton and Anne-Marie Lewis  (Read 211 times)

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A touching story by Walter Krupinski in an interview with the Author.  Yes there was Chivalry. Sad but true.

We had just lost Rall, and we did not even believe he would come back, and Steinhoff (Macky) took over some of his duties. In fact, I was with Macky on this mission when he shot down three planes in less then one minute.
Absolutely incredible, as I was about two hundred meters behind him, covering his tail, and I had yet to score any kills on the mission.  Macky chased two Yaks and fired into one, and that fighter simply disintegrated, and the
other broke right, but Macky made a deflection shot that nailed him solid, and he also went down.  Then out of nowhere another Yak flew past me, at great speed, and was going to get Steinhoff, who was still turning hard right,
reversing course, which brought the 109 head-on into the Yak as he pulled up.  I saw both the Yak and 109 fire but the Yak took the worst of it, shuddered, stalled, and Macky flew past and above the Yak. They were so close
that I thought they would collide.

My fighter just happened to pull alongside the left wing of the Yak, Macky's third kill, and being only 40 or so feet away, very close, I could clearly see the Pilot.  He was beating against the canopy, trying to open it as smoke began
filling the cockpit, and flames were starting to erupt from the cowling.  The front of the Yak had been shredded by Macky's cannon fire.  The Yaks canopy must have been jammed shut from the 109's guns as I could see shell strikes all
over the bevel, where the canopy frame meets the fuselage.  The plane started burning more from the engine, the fuel line apparently feeding the flames.  I saw the terror in the man's face and I was screaming into my oxygen mask
for him to get out, which was silly, so I made the hand gesture for him to get out.

Macky pulled alongside him on his right and saw as well what was happening.  I heard Macky over my radio "Jesus Christ, Punski, I hope he can get out, I hope he can get out," and I could feel Macky's emotions. The man in that plane
had no surface control, the elevators were gone, and the rudder was just hanging on.  He could do nothing but ride out this flaming torch until it crashed, killing him, or he burned to death slowly, or the smoke killed him.  He could not
bail out, and we were at high altitude, perhaps eight thousand feet or so, I think and I knew he would not survive a crash landing.  Macky knew this also.

"Punski, go away, I will catch you," he told me. I knew what he was going to do, it was a clear violation of our ethics to kill a disabled opponent, one who was fairly beaten.  But this was not murder.  Macky was performing a mercy killing.
That Pilot was going to burn to death, slowly.  Before I pulled away, I saw him slip in behind the Yak.  Then the Soviet Pilot, who must have known what was about to happen, just relaxed, and gestured with a wave and nodded his head.
He knew what was going to happen, and this was simply his way of saying "thank you."  The Yak exploded.

Do you have any factual accounts?  Would be nice to read them here.

By the way I would suggest this book to everyone.  A great read indeed.
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Re: From "The German Aces Speak" by Colin D. Heaton and Anne-Marie Lewis
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2017, 06:53:40 PM »
I bought this book when it was first published.  :aok

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Re: From "The German Aces Speak" by Colin D. Heaton and Anne-Marie Lewis
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2017, 07:25:57 PM »
Great stuff Hajo.

Steinhoff was an incredible person. You should read his two books, if you haven't already.

"Messerschmitts over Sicily"
"The Final Hours"

The last one also brings up the incident with the burning Yak, and the pact he and Krupinski made afterwards to do the same if either should be trapped in a burning plane. In a semi-ironic twist was that Steinhoff was severely burned after crashing his Me 262 on takeoff and Krupinski witnessed the whole thing.
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Re: From "The German Aces Speak" by Colin D. Heaton and Anne-Marie Lewis
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2017, 08:21:55 PM »
Thanks to both of you.  Fortunately for me I have purchased and collected many books about the air war over Europe during WWII, written from points of view from both sides. It takes years and a deep interest.

I wish that the community would take the time to read books such as this.  This would place more immersion and an understanding of what happened during the jousting of the Knights of the Skies from both sides.

Maybe you could encourage your squad mates and friends in Aces High to read factual accounts.  Books can be purchased used.  It really gives a good foundation for an appreciation of the history and puts more

immersion into the game especially in events.  In reality Aces High is a first person shooter in the Melee Arena.  It is easy to put a mission up using LW Bombers and escorts and the same with 8th AAF aircraft.

Whenever a mission like this is posted I always jump in flying my favorite ride the P47.
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Re: From "The German Aces Speak" by Colin D. Heaton and Anne-Marie Lewis
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2017, 08:50:27 PM »
I remember reading that as well, reminded me of Stigler and other L/W pilot who had pretty non-vicious attitudes about their enemies.

Reading about Hartmann as well, one thing that always has stuck with me was his statements that what he was most proud of wasn't his kill scores, but that he kept his wingmen alive as much as possible, IIRC he claimed to never have had one get killed in combat.  Regardless if that is accurate or not, at least it shows he was more concerned about preserving his guys lives than with eliminating those of the enemy.

It's amazing how much these guys in some ways cared for each other, while flying mg and cannon fire at one another as well.  "Knights of the air" I suppose, respect perhaps for doing something dangerous in an already dangerous activity (flying), who knows. I read that 25 years after Marseille was killed, there was a reunion honoring him which his mother and fiancee attended.  So did one of the British pilots whom Marseille had shot down.  Also, when Galland attended an event here in Canada, for former RCAF/RAF bomber and fighter crew, he got a standing ovation when introduced, and he cried and took a minute to get himself together as he didn't anticipate such a warm and respectful welcome. 

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Books can be purchased used.

Many libraries also have the capability to lend epub versions of books as well.  Also, the used books is good advice, the used sections on Amazon, you can frequently find books for 1 cent to 1 dollar, and just pay the 5ish$ shipping fee for great shape hard and soft cover books.  Many books from the current "10 best list" in the other thread are available as e-books for just a couple dollars. 

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