Thrustmaster T-16000M Flight Stick

[JimmyC]

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[1ijac]

Cav,  I've used this stick for awhile and found it a great replacement for my old precision pro.  I think I originally got it at Frys for around 40-50 dollars.  I have found it more stable with a heavier base.  I have absolutely no complaints.

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[cav58d]

Anyone using the HOTAS version?  Reviews look pretty good. 

[Bizman]

I'm using the T16000 with the throttle of a TM TopGun Afterburner 2. Last night there was some chat about the stick and someone said that he doesn't like the buttons of the T16000. At some level I agree. I don't use them at all. There's some functions configured on them, but I can't remember what they do. They all look the same!

I believe that the throttle of the T16000 HOTAS is at least as good as the one I use. There's no going back to a single stick for me now that my left hand fingers have learned to do their job without looking.

[cav58d]

I ended up buying the new 16000M sick only.  I really like the feel, but the LED that comes on when making inputs is kind of annoying.  Even though the stick advertises 12 base buttons, half are inaccessible without removing your flying hand off stick or using opposite Fan.  This is by design though as an ambidextrous controller.

I am going to look into the throttle next time I go to microcenter.

[Snork]

I'm using the T16000 with the throttle of a TM TopGun Afterburner 2. Last night there was some chat about the stick and someone said that he doesn't like the buttons of the T16000. At some level I agree. I don't use them at all. There's some functions configured on them, but I can't remember what they do. They all look the same!

I believe that the throttle of the T16000 HOTAS is at least as good as the one I use. There's no going back to a single stick for me now that my left hand fingers have learned to do their job without looking.

I plan to program the buttons on the stick base for things I seldom use and would normally have to hit the keyboard for, like dive flaps, tail hook, jump to other a/c in gunner position, damage check, toggle icons, etc. A reminder card will be necessary for when my old brain doesn't remember which is which.

[Saito]

there is a new version. I liked the t16000m, but this is cooler and updated buttons and such

http://www.thrustmaster.com/en_US/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B0/t16000m-fcs-flight-pack-complete-solution-flight-simulation-fans

[Snork]

there is a new version. I liked the t16000m, but this is cooler and updated buttons and such

http://www.thrustmaster.com/en_US/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B0/t16000m-fcs-flight-pack-complete-solution-flight-simulation-fans

That's the version of stick and throttle I'm getting. Should be here Tuesday. I'll stay with my old CH Pro pedals. They seem to get better and smoother the more sunflower hulls and cigar ashes I drop onto them!

[cav58d]

FYI - If your looking for stick only, microcenter has them for $60-

[Snork]

Fought with UPS all day but ended up with the new TM's this evening and got started setting them up. Very smooth and precise with many buttons and a paddle, a mini joy stick and a roller wheel that don't seem to be useful for AH. I'm questioning whether the "scaling" will be necessary for the X and Y axes. I'll fool with it off line for a couple of days to fine tune.

[cav58d]

Let us know.  I went with stick only, but i'm definitely considering adding the throttle.  Enjoy!

[Snork]

I spent all day setting up the Thrustmaster. Still hard to hit the right buttons but I went on line for a brief check out and caught a spit and a 190 chasing my squad mate's bombers. Killed one and got an assist on the other with no damage to my P-47. I suspected the old stick was causing my gunnery problems and I was right. Being able to hit when the opportunity presents itself is priceless. My ACM is not real hot but adequate.

By the way, I used the default stick scaling and it works like a charm.

[cav58d]

How's the action on the throttle?

[Snork]

How's the action on the throttle?

It is nice and smooth. I tightened the resistance a bit and it has just enough "stiction" to hold its position. It is linear rather than pivoted and that leads to a consistent angle and low profile. Buttons and switches are easy to access.

[haggerty]

I just ordered the stick on its own.  It seems to be available in a ton of different places, including the HOTAS.  I almost ordered the HOTAS setup for $106 or so from Amazon but ended up getting just the stick for 60 Euro from a German vendor (I live in Germany and the shipping is 1-2 days instead of 7-14 to my APO).