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Offline lunatic1

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YAK-3 needs to be perked
« on: February 14, 2017, 02:33:50 PM »
YAK-3 needs to be perked at least 30 perks--I don't know if it is supposed to but it can out fly most planes.

Please perk the YAK-3
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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2017, 02:41:57 PM »
30!!??? It has a terrible range and ammo load out.


I say perk it to 3-5 perks.  It deserves to be perked, but not 30. 
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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2017, 03:05:10 PM »
F4U-1A, and FW190-D9 seem to get more kills with a better K/D.
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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2017, 03:07:41 PM »
I'd be happy if it's fictional super-armor was removed. 

F4U-1A seems to get more kills with a better K/D, how many perks should it be?


5 perks for the UFO.  Same for the 51D, 190D, La-7 and Spit XVI.
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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2017, 03:12:48 PM »
5 perks for the UFO.  Same for the 51D, 190D, La-7 and Spit XVI.

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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2017, 03:14:50 PM »
YAK-3 needs to be perked at least 30 perks--I don't know if it is supposed to but it can out fly most planes.

Please perk the YAK-3

It is good plane, one of the best WW2 planes but it not even close to require perking

1. It has pathetic range at MA
2. Its low ammo load requires you to shoot very accurately - and 20mm Yak's canon nowhere near hispano.
3. Also it is maneuverable it is far less maneuverable than Spit 16
4. It is deadly easy to get pilot wound. You fly for few seconds into AAA area... you get small ping, you have blood all over the cockpit.
5. It has good speed but not as good as La-7, 190D or P-51D

Finally it is great fighter for MA as it optimized for short legs, low altitude combat and being small target - but it does not even deserve 5 ENV
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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2017, 03:38:19 PM »
Spit 16
Spit 14
Spit 8
Bf109k4
Bf109g14
Fw190d9
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P51d
47m
47n

All better then the Yak3


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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2017, 04:34:13 PM »
Make it a bit more destructible and this won't be necessary.
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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2017, 07:48:54 PM »
30!!??? It has a terrible range and ammo load out.


I say perk it to 3-5 perks.  It deserves to be perked, but not 30.

ok maybe 10-20 then   3 to 5 perks is nothing
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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2017, 08:55:34 PM »
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It is good plane, one of the best WW2 planes but it not even close to require perking

1. It has pathetic range at MA
2. Its low ammo load requires you to shoot very accurately - and 20mm Yak's canon nowhere near hispano.
3. Also it is maneuverable it is far less maneuverable than Spit 16
4. It is deadly easy to get pilot wound. You fly for few seconds into AAA area... you get small ping, you have blood all over the cockpit.
5. It has good speed but not as good as La-7, 190D or P-51D

Finally it is great fighter for MA as it optimized for short legs, low altitude combat and being small target - but it does not even deserve 5 ENV

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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2017, 09:16:25 PM »
perk all planes, to some degree ( except a few base planes like the g2, p40s, fm2, a6m2,  i16 blah blah)

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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2017, 11:30:07 PM »
Or just drop it to a 5 ENY plane.
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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2017, 03:24:13 AM »
The yak3 does not have as short range as some people think. Flying it at full throttle is equivallent to flying all other planes on WEP. How long will spit 16 fly on WEP?
The only reason AH yak3 max power is not classified as WEP is because the russians did not care destroying the engines and did not include explicit limitations on max power usage.

The yak3 has some extreme performance. It can climb 4000 fpm at its stall speed, while most other planes will fall out of the sky if they tried to climb on the edge of stall (but the spits and a few others can do this too).
Its takeoff run is ridiculous. I can get it off the ground by pulling so steep that I run and scratch the tail on the runway, litteraly standing on the tail before lifting off. It just floats up like it is full of helium.

The yak3 durability is legendary (in the game, not reality). It does take pilot hits often (barely any armor), but that is the only way to kill it. Structurally it takes huge amounts of damage. The has been discussed to death, and most people argee that this is an artifact of the AH simplistic damage model that makes small plans seem more durable. But it can still be tweaked some.

The cannons are not less effective than what 20mm 109s have, better than 109F/G2.

It is not  super plane, it is just one that exploits every weakness of the (generally excellent!) AH engine.
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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2017, 04:55:24 AM »
Or just drop it to a 5 ENY plane.

+1  doesn't need perking because the people I see flying it just want to defend their field and get up to speed up quickly.

There are no Trikky's or Fariz's flying about terrorising the arena in it.   Un-like a certain 410 driver performing miracles daily.    :t

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Re: YAK-3 needs to be perked
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2017, 05:18:50 AM »
Regarding durability, when I sit in one I don't feel like I fly anything durable, virtually any hit brings significant damage. I think its durability in the game is overestimated (and yes I had seen how to kill yak series of pics)

Regarding ammunition,  ShVAK 20mm cannon had lighter round with 1/2-2/3 of explosive in comparison to MG 151/20, also in comparison to 109g2, yak has better ammo as it had better mg, but not in comparison to g6
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