More cannons for the Spitfire

[Zimme83]

I wish to have a cannon option for the Mk I. While the Mk I did not have cannons IRL the mk II had and since the differences between the two was very small it would imo ok to have a cannon option for the Mk I, as we have for other planes like the I-16.

[lunatic1]

I can tell you if it didn't have them in real life it's not going to have them here sorry

in real life the I-16 had the option of using the 20mm cannons. go online and check the specifications.

[Zimme83]

Thats not an issue, further investigations shows that there indeed existed cannon armed Mk I:s as well (called Ib) but they were rare and unpopular due to unreliable guns. But cannon armed Mk I:s saw combat in 1940 with the 19th Squadron.

[jimbo71]

You'll put your eye out kid

[Bruv119]

spit ixc   4 20mm 

[lyric1]

spit ixc   4 20mm 

A dog.

[Zimme83]

spit ixc   4 20mm 

I like it a lot:

[Bruv119]

A dog.

should still turn inside 190s and 410s just fine

whilst we are at it lets have a clipped spit v,  a seafire III,  spit mk xii a griffon that might actually be flyable and throw in one version that does have a bubble canopy.  spits in AH are so hard done by!

[Zimme83]

Or just allow us to build our own spits, select a mark, then, engine, wings, armament, canopy etc.

On a serious note: 2x20mm with 60 rpg would give the Mk I a little punch at least, it will not turn it into an uber bird but it might see the outside of the hangar once in a while.

[lunatic1]

lets see how I can say this----rules for a vehicle or plane to be in this game---numbers built-time in service<--service record-battle history etc. Spit 1 made it in with .303's  apparently the 20mm plane didn't.

[Zimme83]

Wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Spitfire_(early_Merlin-powered_variants)#Mk_I_.28Type_300.29

One of the most important modifications to the Spitfire was to replace the machine gun armament with wing mounted Hispano 20 mm cannon. In December 1938, Joseph Smith was instructed to prepare a scheme to equip a Spitfire with a single Hispano mounted under each wing. Smith objected to the idea and designed an installation in which the cannon were mounted on their sides within the wing, with only small external blisters on the upper and lower wing surfaces covering the 60 round drum magazine. The first Spitfire armed with a single Hispano in each wing was L1007 which was posted to Drem in January 1940 for squadron trials. On 13 January, this aircraft, piloted by Plt Off Proudman of 602 Squadron took part in an engagement when a Heinkel He 111 was shot down. Soon after this Supermarine was contracted to convert 30 Spitfires to take the cannon armed wing; 19 Squadron received the first of these in June 1940 and by 16 August, 24 cannon armed Spitfires had been delivered. These were known as the Mk IB: Mk Is armed with eight Brownings were retrospectively called the Mk Ia. With the early cannon installation, jamming was a serious problem. In one engagement, only two of the 12 aircraft had been able to fire off all of their ammunition. Further cannon-armed Spitfires, with improvements to the cannon mounts, were later issued to 92 Squadron, but due to the limited magazine capacity it was eventually decided the best armament mix was two cannon and four machine guns (most of these were later converted to the first Mk VBs).

[Dobs]

24 planes--appears you not only want your cake, but want to eat it too... Turny turny with fire power:) 

The last line of "converted to MK Vs" is your answer....  It is there, just fly the Mk V.

[Zimme83]

24 planes--appears you not only want your cake, but want to eat it too... Turny turny with fire power:) 

The last line of "converted to MK Vs" is your answer....  It is there, just fly the Mk V.

An A6m5 would be a better choice for a cannon armed turner. The Spit I is quite different from a mk V in handling, with cannons the spit I would still be quite a challenge to fly but at least a few of all the assists could convert into kills.

[Scca]

Landed 4 in a Spit I Sunday.  The .303's work fine for me

[Becinhu]

Landed 4 in a Spit I Sunday.  The .303's work fine for me

It's all about convergence. And death by 1000 cuts lol


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