P-51D Mustang - 4th FG, 334FS - Maj. Howard Hively

[Vraciu]

When I look at your screen shots, I have no idea where the light is coming from.

HiTech

Are you talking this vs this or the in-game shots?

[Vraciu]

Devil, is this closer to what you had in mind?  Which of the two is better?

[Vraciu]

Each one has a visable shadow.... Looks great Vraciu.   I like the washed out painted over wing stripes better. great work thus far sir!

Thanks, man.   I expect to get some criticism, of course, but compliments are always appreciated!

[Devil 505]

Devil, is this closer to what you had in mind?  Which of the two is better?

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Bottom looks better. Now just change the actual color to something a little darker and bluer be look more like metal.

[Vraciu]

Bottom looks better. Now just change the actual color to something a little darker and bluer be look more like metal.

Okay.    Will try it.

I just did a darkening to the ENV map as well.   Maybe this is what Hitech was getting at, I dunno.  It makes the shadowing more stark.

[Vraciu]

I think we are close...  Not sure which looks better.

[Devil 505]

I like the top one.

I also noticed something else, it also applies to Horse's Itch: You have a large gray streak in the starboard fuselage above the wing join. It looks odd.

[Vraciu]

I like the top one.

I also noticed something else, it also applies to Horse's Itch: You have a large gray streak in the starboard fuselage above the wing join. It looks odd.

That's an exhaust stain.    Supposed to be any way.        I stole it from a photo of E9-V.   Not sure what makes it turn gray IRL but that's what it is.   I will adjust it or eliminate it.   

[Vraciu]

I also noticed something else, it also applies to Horse's Itch: You have a large gray streak in the starboard fuselage above the wing join. It looks odd.

Fixed.

[Devil 505]

I figured it was an exhaust stain, but it looked too thin and too opaque at that position. Also, you had it only on one side.

[Vraciu]

I figured it was an exhaust stain, but it looked too thin and too opaque at that position. Also, you had it only on one side.

Yeah, it's a carryover from another plane.   I darkened it.

Also I desaturated the red on the nose and tail.   

I've got a few tweaks to the paint chips and cowl lines to do then I'll post some more screen shots.

[bustr]

Some factory lines in the 40's.

Found an article where the poster showed a progression of the wing ageing over months of use. Clean from the factory the panels are not visible nor the rivets. As the wing flexes from use you start seeing the rivets as faint dimples with angled light on the surface. The panel lines pick up stains, but are still filled but have become visible lines due to the stains.

So if you do a factory fresh the wings have no lines or rivets but, even aged the lines and rivets don't look like other wings with no puttying and filling.

[hitech]

This image on the wings is what I would expect for a mat/non shiny surface.



HiTech

[Vraciu]

This image on the wings is what I would expect for a mat/non shiny surface.

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HiTech

I contend a matte surface is MUCH flatter than the above. 







If what I posted is considered matte then I am at a total loss. 

Gonna take a look at Skuzzy's spec map.  Be right back.

[Skuzzy]

That image is not in the Sun.

Here is a flat black car in the Sun.