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Re: P-51D Mustang - 4th FG, 334FS - Maj. Howard Hively
« Reply #60 on: March 19, 2017, 03:59:43 PM »
The bumpiness is from the normal map.

Ah, of course.    I've had similar issues.

However, the polygonal shape of the upper wing surface is there regardless.   Fore-aft panel lines and invasion stripes amplify this effect which is why I try to tone them down.


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Here are all the files on the G-6.

Look at all the detail I baked into the diffuse map and how basic the spec maps are. Also note that I did not add any rivet detail to the normal map.


Gold mine.  That S map is minimalist beyond anything I imagined.   Wow.   I gotta' study these...
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Re: P-51D Mustang - 4th FG, 334FS - Maj. Howard Hively
« Reply #61 on: March 19, 2017, 04:06:35 PM »
The bumpiness is from the normal map.

I took a closer look.  I think it is the baked in detail that gives it that quilt-like look.    If that was toned down a tad it would look better IMO.
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Re: P-51D Mustang - 4th FG, 334FS - Maj. Howard Hively
« Reply #62 on: March 19, 2017, 04:10:53 PM »
Ah the hell with it...

Look at these..  Hope they help.

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Re: P-51D Mustang - 4th FG, 334FS - Maj. Howard Hively
« Reply #63 on: March 19, 2017, 04:14:07 PM »
Yes the _S map is very basic there. If I was making a proper skin that was bare metal, I'd probably add some more weathering to it. It was just quickly made to test the specularity levels.

Here's the Normal map also.





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Re: P-51D Mustang - 4th FG, 334FS - Maj. Howard Hively
« Reply #64 on: March 19, 2017, 04:17:30 PM »
Yes the _S map is very basic there. If I was making a proper skin that was bare metal, I'd probably add some more weathering to it. It was just quickly made to test the specularity levels.

Here's the Normal map also.

Thank you, sir.  What are you using to convert to Normal?
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Re: P-51D Mustang - 4th FG, 334FS - Maj. Howard Hively
« Reply #65 on: March 19, 2017, 04:23:56 PM »
Photoshop CS2. The's the free version Skuzzy linked to months ago. I only use it to make conversions.
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Re: P-51D Mustang - 4th FG, 334FS - Maj. Howard Hively
« Reply #66 on: March 19, 2017, 04:29:40 PM »
Photoshop CS2. The's the free version Skuzzy linked to months ago. I only use it to make conversions.

Ah, okay.  I can't get it to work.  Keeps asking for some kind of font.   I finally discovered CrazyBump.  Seems to work well enough but I haven't mastered it just yet.
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Re: P-51D Mustang - 4th FG, 334FS - Maj. Howard Hively
« Reply #67 on: March 19, 2017, 04:38:29 PM »
Which font?
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Re: P-51D Mustang - 4th FG, 334FS - Maj. Howard Hively
« Reply #68 on: March 19, 2017, 08:06:55 PM »
Ah the hell with it...

Look at these..  Hope they help.

I will give them a shot.   This post snuck by me.   :salute
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Re: P-51D Mustang - 4th FG, 334FS - Maj. Howard Hively
« Reply #69 on: March 19, 2017, 09:34:49 PM »
Okay, so part one of my test is in progress.   Devil flat out said, "Black."   This coincides with Fencer's 51 maps he posted.

I'm not sure if I nailed precisely Greebo's previously posted numbers yet.   I have to take a look in GIMP (which I'm still learning).   In any case, the NMF here looks a *LOT* better--still needs work but we're heading the right direction.    (Obviously the black stripes need adjusting.) This must be what Skuzzy and Hitech were getting at.   I sure as heck hope so.



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Re: P-51D Mustang - 4th FG, 334FS - Maj. Howard Hively
« Reply #70 on: March 19, 2017, 10:06:40 PM »
Nice improvement so far.
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Re: P-51D Mustang - 4th FG, 334FS - Maj. Howard Hively
« Reply #71 on: March 20, 2017, 12:16:14 PM »
Nice improvement so far.

Thanks.

Here it is with Fencer's settings.   (Some parts of his wing have invasion stripes not NMF so that's why you may see some of the bands.)


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Re: P-51D Mustang - 4th FG, 334FS - Maj. Howard Hively
« Reply #72 on: March 20, 2017, 12:23:54 PM »
Hang in there Vraciu, it's looking good!

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Re: P-51D Mustang - 4th FG, 334FS - Maj. Howard Hively
« Reply #73 on: March 20, 2017, 12:30:22 PM »
Hang in there Vraciu, it's looking good!

Question:  Are you planning on skinning your namesake's plane?

Thanks, man.  I'm trying.  :cheers:

Greebo already beat me to that other one.  I could not improve upon his work, either.  :)

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Re: P-51D Mustang - 4th FG, 334FS - Maj. Howard Hively
« Reply #74 on: March 20, 2017, 08:43:55 PM »
The effects maps look better to me, although its always hard to tell much just from static screenshots. You can see where the light is coming from now.

The skin itself is good but I think it could use a bit more weathering and shading. I know you like the clean look but its those variations in tone on the dirt and metal panels on Devil's NMF 109 that make it so convincing.