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Offline atlau

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Re: NEW PLANES FOR ACES HIGH 3
« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2017, 07:51:45 PM »
The 190A8 weights are off?

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Re: NEW PLANES FOR ACES HIGH 3
« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2017, 10:06:53 PM »
It's way too heavy empty. The 30mm weighs a little too few, and the 20mm a lot too many pounds. A 4x20mm loadout 190A8 should be the same weight as a 190D, but it's a lot heavier.

It's sort of like the info they had was for a sturmbock which was much more heavily armored, but as anybody can testify that's flown the A8 in-game against bombers it loses oil and wing guns on your first ping, so the armor isn't actually modeled.

So, yep. We got the wrong weights and our A8 is hurting for it. It would be nice to either get the up-armored version or to get the normal version, but we have the worst combo of the two. All the weight, none of the benefits.

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Re: NEW PLANES FOR ACES HIGH 3
« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2017, 02:23:13 AM »
and our F6F-5 is at least 15 mph too slow at its peak speed. :old:
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Re: NEW PLANES FOR ACES HIGH 3
« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2017, 07:57:11 AM »
and our F6F-5 is at least 15 mph too slow at its peak speed. :old:

I think that one's a bit up for debate. There are many reports of performance testing spanning years. Most list upper 370s to lower 380 range. A couple from 1944 list 390/391 mph on max power, but then even more from 1944 even up to and past November '44 still list 375 mph max or 380 mph.

I've read the comments and discussions about the pitot placement leading to false readouts and that it "kept pace with an F4U at every altitude" but this hasn't been confirmed and is more anecdotal while we have dozens of reports spanning multiple years stating otherwise. Not all of them were from erroneous pitot readings. Often such tests at this time would use ground equipment to confirm onboard instrument readouts. So take that one test-flight anecdote and put it against countless combat pilot reports that said the planes were similar but the F4U was faster, and I'm not convinced the F6F-5 should be a 400mph plane. Needs a lot more proof to back that claim up.

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Re: NEW PLANES FOR ACES HIGH 3
« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2017, 11:11:58 AM »
We had this discussion years ago. One needs to search for the posts by Widewing on the subject.
Mosquito VI - twice the spitfire, four times the ENY.

Click!>> "So, you want to fly the wooden wonder" - <<click!
the almost incomplete and not entirely inaccurate guide to the AH Mosquito.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGOWswdzGQs

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Re: NEW PLANES FOR ACES HIGH 3
« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2017, 01:44:00 PM »
Yes, we had it. I don't recall it being convincing. I'll look them up again to refresh my memory.

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Re: NEW PLANES FOR ACES HIGH 3
« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2017, 07:36:01 PM »
Most notable planes not represented in AH:
Beaufighter
SB2C
KI44
B-25J The C sucks the H has no bombsight or drones the J would see usage like the 26s

Variants that have a lot of added value, not hangar queens, and bring something new to the arena:
JU88 attack variant
Mosquito XVIII tse-tse (57 mm Mollins cannon)

Other interesting options:
Whirlwind (early war scenarios, useful even in the MA)
Meteor (another perked jet to combat other jets)
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