P47-M

[nugetx]

[Drano]

Lol perk the P-38L! That's hilarious!


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[Krusty]

I doubt he's even looked at the F4F, the spit1, the P40s, let alone flown them in the main arena. He puts undisputable god of the spit14 in the middle tier with the spit8 but then moves the spit16 up to the one above that? The spit16 and spit8 are the same plane. Same basic performance. Just a slight difference in configuration and loadout. Arguably, the spit8 is even better at turn fights and stall fighting than the 16 is.

You're making arbitrary stuff up here nugget. Please stop. It's not practical and it's not grounded in reality and it doesn't take into account HOW you use the plane. The spit8 is a better fighter than the 16 but the 16 rolls a little better. Players see the 16 is the highest number so they take that.

You should take up the N1K2. It's fun. It's slow. It can't climb very well for a late war plane. It has 4x 20mm cannons but the ballistics suck so you have to aim carefully and use more to bring down a target. It's not even very COMMON in the main arena. A very large number of its kills last tour were just bombers and GVs. You need to drop your "let's change the game because I have a misconceived notion of something with no context" battle plan you've drawn up, eh?

[wil3ur]

From another one of Nugget's whine threads, but figure I'd post here, since P47Ms are throwing the game balance off so much, what would you consider the perk level needed for the Storch to be?

Vehicles and planes are separate groups for the Sortie %




Fi 156                  2.11%
P-47M                   1.62%

[waystin2]

Hitech already looked at Nutty's chart and said it ain't gonna happen.  About 5 or 6 pages ago or in a different post.  I don't know.  This guy hijacks posts  everywhere with the same baseless drivel it's so hard to remember where his last crazy post was.   

[wil3ur]

I WAS KILLED BY (X) PLANE -- IT SHOULD BE PERKED AND REMOVED FROM THE GAME!!!!   

[Vinkman]

It is great for dumping E for a nice sharp hard turn and a nice hard-punching guns setup, though. Those two together mean a pilot with a little SA can wreck shop against the unwary.

This can be said of any plane. Is that the qualifications for Perk plane? 

Take a P-39 up and dive the unary. It's one of the best high speed turning planes in the MA, it has a 37mm cannon, 4 50 cals.  PERK it!

The things that make planes special...or great...or better..or what ever adjective you want to use...
1) Top speed.
2) low speed turn rate.
3) Gun package.
4) Bomb/Rocket load.

If it's going to be perked, it should be in the top 10% of 3 out of 4 of these. 

Gun package rank. I see it as  1@30mm=2@20mm=6@.50cal.=12@.30cal

JuG M:
Top Speed =High It's faster than everything above 20K, but it's slower than the 109K4, Dora, and Tempest below 20K, and Slower than the P-51 and La7 below 10K.

Low Speed turn Rate = Low  most planes will out turn it. Yak3, Spitfire, N1ki, Ki-84, F4u, Hurricane, Ki-67, P-38, C-205, and on and on...

Gun Pack = Mid:  middle of the pack firepower [w/6 50cals] on par with the Ki-84 and Spitfire, and equal to the pny, corsair and P-38. Way behind, the 262, Typhie, N1ki, C-hog, 109G [Gondies), Mossie, 110, 410, La7[3@20mm]

Ordinance = Low: Doesn't carry rockets or bombs.

2 lows, a mid and high doesn't add up to a perk plane. 

[Krusty]

I wasn't advocating for a perk. Plus, some planes bleed E way better than others. That's what I meant. Maybe it won't regain it very fast, but it can turn that E into angles. That can't be said of all planes. The 262 has a LOT of E, but it's a veritable pig since the 262 update and it can't mush into an accelerated stall anymore, can't get angles like it used to.

[DubiousKB]

....   I'm in the 56th... I fly a 47M... I'll just quietly hope I'm counted as one of those pilots making the 47M "a beast", and not just a target...

Because anyone who's killed me knows, it's an "any given sunday" situation. At times, I look the ace, and other's a baby seal to be clubbed...

..... Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug.....


...No Perk for 47M

[ACE]

Reading through 11 pages... I have my conclusion. P47 doesn't need to be perked. Violator is right.

[Vinkman]

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This "fun to fight" metric of yours has no meaning. You really need to stop posting it. 

[Becinhu]

Lol perk the P-38L! That's hilarious!


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It needs perked because of the margarita tank and the blender.


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[YUCCA]

Perk the M jug?  I'm loving this lol.

[Krusty]

Perk the M jug?  I'm loving this lol.

Yucca forgive him for he knows not what he do.

 

Hey nugget, instead of trying to perk a ride, try flying it more. You'll 1) appreciate the skill that goes into it more, 2) understand its weaknesses and how to defeat it better, and 3) learn more and have more fun. I would suggest you fly with Yucca there as one of the more prolific jug pilots in the game, but..

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Oh, that's right. Nugget doesn't play this game, last I recall.

[caldera]

My version of the nuggetx triangle of perkage.