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Offline SJ001

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Re: New Rudder Pedal User Question
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2017, 07:28:19 PM »
Is the idea to keep the ball centered?

I looked up ball gauge and seen turn and slip, turn rate and coordinated flight, 2 things in one gauge.

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Re: New Rudder Pedal User Question
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2017, 08:45:19 PM »
That's correct.  :aok

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Re: New Rudder Pedal User Question
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2017, 02:07:31 AM »
I inverted my axis.  :angel:
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Re: New Rudder Pedal User Question
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2017, 09:41:38 AM »
I am going to try swapping the axis this weekend.
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Re: New Rudder Pedal User Question
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2017, 10:32:40 AM »
Do a lot of drills to reprogram. First fight you're going to push the wrong pedal.   :old:

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Re: New Rudder Pedal User Question
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2017, 10:38:35 AM »
Do a lot of drills to reprogram. First fight you're going to push the wrong pedal.   :old:

and if you're anything like me, the second flight, the third, etc. etc. :)
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Re: New Rudder Pedal User Question
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2017, 02:06:19 PM »
lol cant hurt my aim thats for sure.  might help.  :D
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Re: New Rudder Pedal User Question
« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2017, 02:09:05 PM »
and if you're anything like me, the second flight, the third, etc. etc. :)


  Yup! and for some reason I had real difficulties when looking back,I would input the wrong rudder most times so I flew around for several hours just looking back and working my pedals.


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Re: New Rudder Pedal User Question
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2017, 06:41:50 PM »
In addition to coordinated flight exercises with your rudder, another good one is to practice "shooting with your feet" to get a feel for your rudder input and scaling.

One good exercise for this is what I call the "shoot around the clock" exercise:

1) Bring up the target at your current convergence range .target [range]
2) Get up to a cruising speed where your pipper is roughly level with the center of the target
3) When centered, fire a short burst (1-2 seconds), making sure you are unloaded and not maneuvering
4) This is your "test bullet dispersion pattern" - about a tight a pattern as you'll get at convergence
5) Then maneuver to shoot at each of the "clock" points 12:00, 3:00, 6:00 and 9:00 on the target, where the lines meet the outer circle
6) You can do this with our without a lot of rudder use -- but for your rudder practice, try using rudder to aim the pipper precisely on the point where the lines and the outer circle meet before shooting
7) Practice it until you can do all 5 shots (including the center) with a 2 second burst at each, in under 25 seconds with precisely aimed tight bullet patterns
8) Change the order; go counter-clockwise, go from 12 to 6 then 3 to 9, try different variations

Things to note during this practice about rudder specifically:
1) Note how much or how little precise control you have in "aiming with your feet" using rudder - you can scale your rudder axis accordingly
2) Notice that if you rudder and then release just before firing, there will be some wobble as your plane yaws back and forth to center and your shot pattern will be spread horizontally.
3) Notice that if you rudder a little and hold it when you shoot, you may get less "wobble" and a tighter bullet dispersion pattern.

This is one of a series of exercises I do to get a feel for gunnery with different aircraft.   
 

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Re: New Rudder Pedal User Question
« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2017, 06:51:38 PM »
AND ... consider scaling your rudder inputs (Like you do for stick inputs) ...allows for fine adjusts in first third of travel, the increasingly more rudder as you extend your leg.   (Technique ONLY)

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Re: New Rudder Pedal User Question
« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2017, 07:52:55 PM »
Also if you rest your feet on the pedals add some deadband.

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Re: New Rudder Pedal User Question
« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2017, 07:54:26 PM »
 :aok
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Re: New Rudder Pedal User Question
« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2017, 08:04:40 PM »
Ive been looking at the scaling, I have no Idea, can I just select enable scaling and use default (diagonal pattern) or do I have to tweak settings?

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Re: New Rudder Pedal User Question
« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2017, 08:22:33 PM »
IF you like it the way it is, don't change anything.  I have my sliders set so 10-40 are much flatter (Less input) then I increase the slope from there on.  Watch the green indicators to the right when you change a slider position, then depress the rudder pedal and you can see the effect that you are inducing.

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Re: New Rudder Pedal User Question
« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2017, 08:38:31 PM »
OK thanks, I will try that!