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Offline nrshida

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MPA Scoresheet
« on: September 17, 2017, 01:03:11 PM »
I think the Scoresheet in the Match Play Arena is faulty. I can't expand the window and similarly cannot pan right although there seems to be more fields there. Additionally I am unable to input opponent's name into the text box and it seems permanently locked in the dropdown mode.

Might someone else please take a look in case it's my computer.

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Re: MPA Scoresheet
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2017, 03:50:57 PM »
Really so few people fly MPA? Isn't someone willing to just pop in and confirm this - it's just a formatting issue I think.



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Re: MPA Scoresheet
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2017, 04:12:36 PM »
Does the match arena have a playpen area where you and others can chase each other around without queuing up 24x7? I wonder if more people would drop in if they had that choice. Queue up for an official match or chase around willy nilly with a few friends taking shots at each other. I understand anyone can throw up a custom arena for this, over the years it appeared players were more likely to drop into a playpen for a few than go to the trouble of a custom arena. It's a fine hair to slice but, an official match emotionally is far different than getting towered in a loose friendly duel. Queuing up means putting something official on the line that cannot be removed other than wining, or living with loosing, or running.

The DA seemed full when the MA had 400-600 players. In games or the real world, personalities that have thrived on being on the spot, life and death, are about 1 in 100,000. And the US Army went through all of it's combat records from the revolutionary war through Vietnam and discovered one constant about combat squads. On average, 1 squad member didn't mind pulling the trigger and killing almost anything, 2-3 had problems with facing the fight, and the rest only did their job and nothing more.

So on average we are 150 a night, 100 during the day. And even the killers are not guaranteed to be on at predictable times to fulfill their percentage of this formula.     
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Re: MPA Scoresheet
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2017, 12:44:28 AM »
Does the match arena have a playpen area where you and others can chase each other around without queuing up 24x7? I wonder if more people would drop in if they had that choice.

I did suggest a warm-up area on the Wishlist. To let everyone have a warm up but mainly to overcome the empty arena phenomenon. I think the TA is probably the best place for mucking around.


an official match emotionally is far different than getting towered in a loose friendly duel. Queuing up means putting something official on the line that cannot be removed other than wining, or living with loosing, or running.

You can't run far either. There's an electric fence  :D

Could it be that years of MA indoctrination give this emotional value? Also duelling when originating in the MA is usually some kind of handbag-waving ego dispute? It does feel different now Bustr, an activity free from all that. You just try your best. If you lose you're back up in a minute which also helps recognize the patterns of ACM choices where you're making mistakes.

I think the help if asked element would also be there if it was more popular. As it is right now I mostly seem to find Japanese opponents (my Timezone).


In games or the real world, personalities that have thrived on being on the spot, life and death, are about 1 in 100,000.

I am aware of these studies and dispositions. In real life I'm not a killer type. I even throw wasps and beetles out the window  :D Just in AH I've come to appreciate the honest elementality of pitching your chosen plane and the ACM you've acquired against a similarly-minded opponent. Just a game when all said and done. I thrive on challenging myself to meet difficult but achievable goals. In this regard AH has been very rewarding.


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Re: MPA Scoresheet
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2017, 03:20:34 PM »
You are making the mistake of assuming others are just like yourself with the good intentions conundrum. That is how the ARMY ended up having to remove itself and it's ideals from the research to understand why they couldn't get everyone who passed basic training to shoot at the enemy. You can never project on anyone else that this is just a game in the privacy of their subconscious. The ARMY study just like insurance actuary tables are much more honest because they don't project the good intentions conundrum.

You probably can list the actual number of players who constitute the 1% of our game who live for mano-E-mano and the chance to put one in the books for everyone to see. The remaining 10% of the community who like to chase around 1v1 informally, you will always be surprised at who shows up as long as it's not an official match format. Over time just like with the old DA, some of those 10% after informally jousting with the regulars will shift from a 10% to a 1%. Otherwise 1%ers are born that way and few in between.
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Re: MPA Scoresheet
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2017, 03:37:00 AM »
You probably can list the actual number of players who constitute the 1% of our game who live for mano-E-mano and the chance to put one in the books for everyone to see.

Actually this post is unrelated to my attempts to promote the MPA elsewhere. I was just curious how many fights I've been having against whom. Can't seem to access that information.


You can never project on anyone else that this is just a game in the privacy of their subconscious.

I'm not really sure what you mean with this statement. That AH is a game is a simple statement of fact. If others don't view it that way then surely that's their problem? (Yes I have met some of those  :))


Otherwise 1%ers are born that way and few in between.

But I don't think I'm a 1%er. I'm just a player of this game, challenging myself to try and match some of the ACM I know is possible from experiencing it first hand fighting more advanced opponents. Don't even consider myself one of those 'competitive types'. I just find the 1 on 1 the most honest or elemental aspect of this strange hobby.

Was just hoping to find more like-minded people.

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Re: MPA Scoresheet
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2017, 01:22:27 PM »
You do know of this page right?

I did not Fugitive. Thank you. Bit of a shame the matchup drop down boxes don't seem complete.

So two things can be concluded, MPA is much more used than I thought and... I live in the wrong Timezone. Sigh.

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Re: MPA Scoresheet
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2017, 01:38:19 PM »
Furthermore, I've been thinking about your analogy Bustr, but I think it doesn't bear close inspection. I was aware of such Army studies, actually those predating the Vietnam conflict, particularly over Victoria Cross recipients. Thing is though, and why I keep belabouring the 'game' aspect, you don't kill anyone at all. This would be bourne out by the percentage of AH players who (assuming their risk of getting shot down was to their own comfort level) would be willing to shoot another AH player down is 100%.

At least I've seldom (in the extreme) ran into an AH player that didn't take every opportunity to shoot me down, Head On, out-numbered 3-1 and they the fourth man in, or the fifth, 88-mm after being shot down near their own base, Vulched relentlessly by the J0ker's types etc... doesn't matter. Rare is the day you run into an opponent that has the class to stay out of a 1-on-1, for instance. Because 'this is war, after all'. Pffft.

I think you've actually inadvertently put your finger on what it is: could it be that most AH players dislike being beaten so much that they simply prefer an arena where that risk is waaaaaay less that 50% (given equal pilots)?

So from a certain perspect AH is $15's-worth of Tom Cruise per month and Pervert was right all those years ago. Thanks Bustr. You've depressed my optimism about the health of the game no end. Sigh.


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