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Re: Is HTC trying to reduce GV play?
« Reply #90 on: October 14, 2017, 02:28:43 PM »

If you really read my post, you'll find out that I did not write: "It never happens"   :)
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Re: Is HTC trying to reduce GV play?
« Reply #91 on: October 14, 2017, 02:29:49 PM »
ya well you will change your tune if you are the one targeted

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Re: Is HTC trying to reduce GV play?
« Reply #92 on: October 14, 2017, 02:44:40 PM »
have no way of combating stalking 2nd accounts. Or people using 2nd accounts to get ships sunk or find protectors of flags.

The vast majority of those claims are just rubbish kneejerk reactions.


Very possibly true however the point is that a very big population BELIEVE this is true and use it as a point when describing AH3. This is the "face" that many see when checking out the game. With so many people BELIEVING this point and telling new customers.... " Ah well the mission was busted due to a guy cheating using a second account" how many players do you think are turned off and move on to something else?

I know there are reasons for HTC allowing second accounts but I think they should have more restrictions and those should be posted and easily found by any one wondering. A big one should be that a second account can NEVER be used on any team other than the original/parent account. This should be a software lock and checked everytime the second, or more account logs in. This would take away the "second account spy" issue.


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Re: Is HTC trying to reduce GV play?
« Reply #93 on: October 14, 2017, 02:58:59 PM »
A big one should be that a second account can NEVER be used on any team other than the original/parent account. This should be a software lock and checked everytime the second, or more account logs in. This would take away the "second account spy" issue.
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There would be so many workarounds that it's not worth the hassle at all.
And it would not stop the morons to scream foul play each time something bad hapens to them either.
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Re: Is HTC trying to reduce GV play?
« Reply #94 on: October 14, 2017, 03:09:59 PM »

Very possibly true however the point is that a very big population BELIEVE this is true and use it as a point when describing AH3. This is the "face" that many see when checking out the game. With so many people BELIEVING this point and telling new customers.... " Ah well the mission was busted due to a guy cheating using a second account" how many players do you think are turned off and move on to something else?

I know there are reasons for HTC allowing second accounts but I think they should have more restrictions and those should be posted and easily found by any one wondering. A big one should be that a second account can NEVER be used on any team other than the original/parent account. This should be a software lock and checked everytime the second, or more account logs in. This would take away the "second account spy" issue.

Let me get this straight, because people think there is a problem something must be done about it even if there isn't a problem.  I've got a suggestion especially for long term players, stop complaining about something when there really isn't a problem.  That makes you part of the problem.  The more you talk about this conspiracy the more credability you give it.

Once more, as Wiley has said, if this is actually happening, what's the worst possible outcome?  A fight ensues.  Heaven forbid!
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Re: Is HTC trying to reduce GV play?
« Reply #95 on: October 14, 2017, 03:46:22 PM »
Let me get this straight, because people think there is a problem something must be done about it even if there isn't a problem.  I've got a suggestion especially for long term players, stop complaining about something when there really isn't a problem.  That makes you part of the problem.  The more you talk about this conspiracy the more credability you give it.

Once more, as Wiley has said, if this is actually happening, what's the worst possible outcome?  A fight ensues.  Heaven forbid!

But there is a problem, the game is getting a reputation for allowing cheats. I KNOW that there is  NO cheating going on. I believe that HTC does a great job of keeping that crap out of the game. The point is the reputation the game is getting from HTC not stamping out the "second account cheaters", and any other stupid thing that gets bantered about. Take the reviewing film thread, a player just about came out and said they wanted to use the film playback to cheat and find enemies.  :rolleyes:

Hitech did come in and post in that thread and it pretty much killed it there. I just think they need to be more proactive in shutting down the "gossip" about all of these work arounds people are trying, or believe are being used. 

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Re: Is HTC trying to reduce GV play?
« Reply #96 on: October 14, 2017, 04:51:49 PM »
A second account to get around the side switch time is sometimes needed to find a fight.
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Re: Is HTC trying to reduce GV play?
« Reply #97 on: October 14, 2017, 07:33:05 PM »
A second account to get around the side switch time is sometimes needed to find a fight.

Well thats a whole other issue. If the numbers weren't so low, if there were more players willing to fight instead or avoid fights, if missions involved attack AND defense then nobody would have to switch sides, but on the other hand I dont see that big an issue with changing the time down to an hour or two instead of the six we have now.

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Re: Is HTC trying to reduce GV play?
« Reply #98 on: October 15, 2017, 12:57:26 PM »
Well thats a whole other issue. If the numbers weren't so low, if there were more players willing to fight instead or avoid fights, if missions involved attack AND defense then nobody would have to switch sides, but on the other hand I dont see that big an issue with changing the time down to an hour or two instead of the six we have now.

3 hours is actually the better rate, and it still intervals with a 24 hour period.
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Re: Is HTC trying to reduce GV play?
« Reply #99 on: October 15, 2017, 07:29:12 PM »
But there is a problem, the game is getting a reputation for allowing cheats. I KNOW that there is  NO cheating going on. I believe that HTC does a great job of keeping that crap out of the game. The point is the reputation the game is getting from HTC not stamping out the "second account cheaters", and any other stupid thing that gets bantered about.

It gets "bantered about" by people who say they know it isn't a problem yet continue to keep posting about it as though it is.  What is it you want... a clearly stated policy on 2nd accounts that would do what?  Work about as well as forum posting Rule#7? 

Look, if someone is THAT determined to cheat, there is nothing stopping them from finding a way to have another legal, second account (their neighbor, for example) from which they could tap for information.  It is what it is.  What would stop any of that stuff cold is players not taking part in it.  For example, if someone types on country channel that an enemy CV is at such-and-such location, I look on the map and if the guy reporting it isn't right close by to where it's reported, then I will not do anything with that info, I don't care if it loses the war.  Same for NOE raid reports.  Same for GV locations.  If it smells rotten, just have nothing to do with it.  If people have to resort to that kind of tactic to win something, too bad for them.

I've heard these accusations so many times while at the same time knowing the real reasons why supposedly "top secret" plans were found out.  Sometimes it's just planes dar popping.   Once I was landing a set of bombers and happened to overfly a tank as I'm approaching the field.  I upped an A-20 and killed him.  All I heard for an hour is how I "cheated" because I should not have known he was there because the base wasn't flashing (yet).  And so it goes with most of these crazy accusations.  One fellow countryman that I know flies with a joystick that's about 20 yrs old and falling apart because he can't afford a replacement... yet I'm supposed to believe he's operating multiple accounts just to know where some CV is?  The guy doesn't even fly bombers fergoshsake. 

I believe most of this stuff is just people butt hurt because they made a plan and it didn't work.  That happens (plan failed) all the time to me, just ask Zoney or Snailman or Atlou.  I add to their fighter stats regularly and they always seem to know where I'm going and at what alt.  Yet I'd never even consider that they are shading me because I'm not running some complicated op, I'm simply flying bombers to a target that attracts bombers.  They know it, they watch dar, and it's not hard to figure out what I'm up to.   Same can be said for any NOE mission or any CV location.  We've all had a turn on that side of the terrain, we know where we'd want the CV, so we go looking there.  Nothing complicated about it.