Has internet/google/facebook made people dumber/less informed?

[Arlo]

I don't think the question is whether or not its flat but what is holding it up.

Taxes.

[1stpar3]

Taxes.

OK...so IF I get a TAX RETURN....    The sky is falling To the BUNKERS! 

[RUSH1]

I don't think people are any dumber now than they were before social media, I just think that critical thinking has vanished as everything seems to be at your finger tips and the fact that were are quickly becoming a species where instant gratification is key, people are less likely to research most things and take information on face value regardless of the validity of the source and information.

I agree, and I believe the ability to achieve instant gratification by taking advantage of the internet's resources has dumbed down our society to a degree.  Let's say you are researching something of interest.  The internet allows you to cut through the clutter and go straight to the answers you are looking for.  Very efficient, but how much of that "clutter" is actually additional knowledge missed that would have been absorbed forty years ago when you read an entire book in order to realize your answer?         

[Skuzzy]

And how much of what you find is accurate?  See that is the biggest problem with the Internet.  Anyone can find anything they need, even if it is not accurate.

Wikipedia is one of the biggest propagators of incorrect data, for example.

[Arlo]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II

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[Arlo]

Just an example of Wiki also providing well cited material.

Universities do not accept Wikipedia as a valid source for papers. However, Wikipedia is still a tool that can be used effectively. If you find content there, regarding your subject, go to the citations and copy them for follow-up. The sources cited are fine, if they are academic and peer reviewed.

[Wiley]

Just an example of Wiki also providing well cited material.

Devil's advocating here, but unless someone notices it is wrong, if you provide a citation on a wiki what confirms that the cited work actually says what you claim?  For example, if I put on the Wiki that the 190D-9 had a deck speed of 450mph and cited a well known book about it until another user noticed it, it would show as cited on the wiki until it was corrected, wouldn't it?

Niche technical stuff is a pretty bad example because 4000 guys who read the wiki every day will have read the book referenced and have stuff like that memorized, but do you get what I mean?  "Wiley is never wrong." -Abraham Lincoln, autobiography.

I'd say the wiki might be a half decent starting point to find other sources through the citations to look stuff up from, but it's suspect as a "primary" source.

Wiley.

[Arlo]

Devil's advocating here, but unless someone notices it is wrong, if you provide a citation on a wiki what confirms that the cited work actually says what you claim?  For example, if I put on the Wiki that the 190D-9 had a deck speed of 450mph and cited a well known book about it until another user noticed it, it would show as cited on the wiki until it was corrected, wouldn't it?

Niche technical stuff is a pretty bad example because 4000 guys who read the wiki every day will have read the book referenced and have stuff like that memorized, but do you get what I mean?  "Wiley is never wrong." -Abraham Lincoln, autobiography.

I'd say the wiki might be a half decent starting point to find other sources through the citations to look stuff up from, but it's suspect as a "primary" source.

Wiley.

I didn't say it's an ideal (or even a) 'primary source.' I illustrated how it is an effective tool to find sources through citation. As effective, if not more so, than the online databases/search engines provided through my university (which, quite honestly, can be just as bad as trying to use Google). 

[Arlo]

Granted ....

[Wiley]

I didn't say it's an ideal (or even a) 'primary source.' I illustrated how it is an effective tool to find sources through citation. As effective, if not more so, than the online databases/search engines provided through my university (which, quite honestly, can be just as bad as trying to use Google). 

Sorry, misunderstood what you were saying.  I agree.

Wiley.

[Ciaphas]

But the person needs to be able to sift through the citations based on the authors bias. depending on the subject matter this can change the entire outline of the information presented.


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[Wiley]

But the person needs to be able to sift through the citations based on the authors bias. depending on the subject matter this can change the entire outline of the information presented.


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But that's no different from looking at any source.

But what Arlo's describing is not how the vast majority of people use the internet in the second place.

Wiley.

[Skuzzy]

Arlo, I did not say all of Wikipedia was useless.  Like was stated, context is everything.  Take something out of context and you can find whatever you want to support any thought you might have.  Look at the flat Earthers for an extreme example.

Just because it has citations does not make it accurate.  Context is king.