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Offline DubiousKB

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2018, 08:55:43 AM »
A gently rising mountain range up to 100K feet would do the trick nicely.

I wasn't part of the "old" conversations regarding this because when someone on the message board says it's been talked about before, that could mean 10-15 years ago!

My opinion on it is similar to Vraciu's approach (not sure if that's good or bad V!), but it requires some new maps. Now, not being a terrain editor like some of our dedicated community *oink*, I'm not going to speak TOOO far out of turn, BUT:

Isn't it possible to restrict the "off-map" flying by literally designing barriers at the terrain edge? Why not a large mountain range?

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2018, 09:33:15 AM »
we should have the same kinda walls in the MA as we have in matchplay that prevents running. I was impressed how that was implemented.

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2018, 09:47:26 AM »


i don't normally get into these things but that's what i was thinking as well.

we should have the same kinda walls in the MA as we have in matchplay that prevents running. I was impressed how that was implemented.

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2018, 09:48:45 AM »
Hitech should add AI fighters to patrol out there.   :devil

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2018, 10:57:07 AM »
Hitech should add AI fighters to patrol out there.   :devil

I like this -- 40K 152s buzzing around ready to tear you up.

In regards to the loop around to the other side -- heck no, do you realize how easily that could be abused?  For example, in the Uterus map, I could fly from the SW or SE corner due south, and end up directly over HQ and City within minutes, and be back to friendly territory just as quickly.  I'd say as fun as it sounds, it's a big no.
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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2018, 11:04:36 AM »
I'm in favor of instant death.

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2018, 11:23:20 AM »
Another suggestion:

A small buffer zone around the edge of the map.  Once you go beyond that buffer zone your engine dies. If you turn back
your engine returns to normal operation.


This will keep players in the field of play.

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Offline Kanth

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2018, 11:41:43 AM »
I"m also in favor of setting them on fire., which is why i don't often participate in these.
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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2018, 12:11:45 PM »
Another suggestion:

A small buffer zone around the edge of the map.  Once you go beyond that buffer zone your engine dies. If you turn back
your engine returns to normal operation.


This will keep players in the field of play.

 :salute

To me, this is about the most fair response I have read.
Some folks may drift off the map by accident.  Maybe they're AFK for a short or something.
This way the player may have a chance to continue their sortie, that is if they get back on the map before they become a lawn-dart.

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2018, 12:41:50 PM »
Flying off map should trigger killshooter for any gun or bomb damage. Need to make the repercussions for lame behavior sting a bit.

Dang you wont let that "lame game play" issue alone. Trying to do the same thing to Bombers you did to GV's? How about NOE that "Lame game play" also?

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Offline wil3ur

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2018, 12:49:23 PM »
Dang you wont let that "lame game play" issue alone. Trying to do the same thing to Bombers you did to GV's? How about NOE that "Lame game play" also?

What ever.

NOE is not lame behavior -- NOE mission mass bailing because one fighter flies over them (seen it happen many many many times *coughjokerscoughvtardscoughcough*) is lame behavior.

Driving a Jeep inside a Tiger2 and machine gunning it down (yes, you used to be able to do this) is lame game play.

Flying off the map 30 sectors to avoid combat in a combat sim is lame game play.

And GVDar has been shown NOT to have affected the rate at which vehicles are bombed by more than a percentage point, while the deaths of attack planes against GV's has actually increased, so THAT is a LAME ARGUEMENT!   :ahand  :bolt:
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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2018, 01:51:25 PM »

Flying off the map 30 sectors to avoid combat in a combat sim is lame game play.

And GVDar has been shown NOT to have affected the rate at which vehicles are bombed by more than a percentage point, while the deaths of attack planes against GV's has actually increased, so THAT is a LAME ARGUEMENT!   :ahand  :bolt:

1) No one has ever "flown off the map 30 sectors." Even if they had the will, they wouldn't have had the fuel. If you feel the need to exaggerate to try to make a point, your point probably cannot stand on its own.
2) Got documentation for this mere percentage point difference that you claim exists?

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2018, 03:15:34 PM »
30 Sectors is not impossible, I can do it on a single tank in a 262 if I want.  Even moreso in a bomber.  If you take into account they're flying more than a sector above the map, added with 10 sectors in and 10 sectors out, it's very easily a 30 sector round trip spent off map avoiding fights.

Percentages  of tank kills were discussed in a previous thread with great backup, documentation, graphs and input from the illustrious Lusche.

But, as with everything else in the snowflake generation, perception Trumps facts!   :old:   :bolt:
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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2018, 03:22:02 PM »
What about a wall of wind on the boundaries...100 knot winds out

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2018, 03:24:36 PM »
What about a wall of wind on the boundaries...100 knot winds out

300MPH updraft!   :x
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