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Offline Chris79

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Re: Ju-87G
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2018, 07:34:21 AM »
Loaded offline practice, every tank dies to the Stuka G. Loaded M476, Panther, Tiger1, Tiger 2, and T34/85. 4 shots top of turret dispatchs the Tigers, 2 rounds to the back of the turret kills the panther, 2 rounds either to the side or back armor kills a panzer, 4 rounds back turret kills the M476 and the T34.


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Re: Ju-87G
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2018, 07:52:11 AM »
Try a m3? They are surprisingly durable against those 37mm rounds.... think they just go right thru

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Re: Ju-87G
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2018, 09:57:32 AM »
Try a m3? They are surprisingly durable against those 37mm rounds.... think they just go right thru

This has been a problem with AP on light armor for a while.  Back in AH2 if you didn't have HE loaded, M3's were nearly impervious to tank rounds.
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Re: Ju-87G
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2018, 11:30:20 AM »
StukaG is probably the best tank killer in game. I have yet to have an issue knocking out tigers and panthers. You have to approach at the proper angle and fire on the top of the turrets or just behind them.
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Re: Ju-87G
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2018, 03:38:15 PM »
StukaG is probably the best tank killer in game. I have yet to have an issue knocking out tigers and panthers. You have to approach at the proper angle and fire on the top of the turrets or just behind them.
what he said and a small dot for your sight helps
Also people have a tendency to have too much speed, use full flaps and go in slow take a 1 round (per gun) shot and then pull out.

You need to also be close ( the closer the better) i have my convergence at 175

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Re: Ju-87G
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2018, 03:41:33 PM »
Back around 2013 I got a copy of Hs 129 Panzerjager and it explained how the 129 pilots made single shot kills with the MK101\103 tungsten carbide rounds against all of the russian heavy tanks. They fired at sub 100m at a slight angle for the armor. So I tested sub 100yd shots with the Ju87 and blew up all tanks up to the tiger1 with single shots. You can shoot flat just under the top track tread between the wheels and sometimes you get lucky. In the MA this worked as long as the tank driver was looking in another direction, otherwise it was suicide.

 The Hs 129 pilots in russia had a squadron leader who got the idea from watching how 190's with rockets killed tanks by firing sub 100m flying on the deck. He died after explaining not to slap your tail end on the tank when you pull up after shooting one during a demonstration of just that against a dead T34. Hs129 pilots were known to fly down village streets to sneak up on russian tanks. All that was needed was for that tiny round to make it into the crew compartment or into the engine compartment. I tested the F9 with rockets and a custom gunsight, the method works if you get speed, and line up straight for an approach run. MA tank commanders enjoyed the free kill when I tried to duplicate it there.








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Re: Ju-87G
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2018, 09:55:53 PM »
Excellent stuff here BUSTR!
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Re: Ju-87G
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2018, 01:53:41 AM »
This has been a problem with AP on light armor for a while.  Back in AH2 if you didn't have HE loaded, M3's were nearly impervious to tank rounds.

AT rounds like he ones from WW2 are not very effective against lightly armored GV:s, its more or less just like a big rifle round and you are by no mean guaranteed a kill just because you hit it.

2x AP hits on a truck with a M4 and while the 2nd round would have immobilize the truck the damage isnt that impressive. An AP .50 round would have done the job just as well.

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Re: Ju-87G
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2018, 09:49:05 AM »
But the ap round should kill a few of the troops in back!

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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2018, 12:04:48 PM »
But the ap round should kill a few of the troops in back!

But everyone knows that AHIII tank rounds bounce off windshields.  :devil

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Re: Ju-87G
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2018, 01:19:36 PM »
I've honestly never had an M3 survive a hit, regardless of shell type, no matter what version of the game, caliber, etc.

No idea why.

Though, one could make a case for the German shells, having an HE component to them
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Re: Ju-87G
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2018, 02:21:26 PM »
Standard german AP tank ammo had a small HE filler. As far as I understand the description of the special 3/3.7cm projetiles they had a special light alloy casing that melted during the penetration and acted like incendiary ammo.

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Re: Ju-87G
« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2018, 04:43:45 PM »
     What convergence did Rudel use? And what angle of attack?

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« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2018, 05:05:05 AM »
That is how I understood it too.
The problems with light armored vehicles is thatprojectile never melts, but create a hole in, and one on it's way out, and everything in between, , typically happens to APC's, and maybe old Volvo cars  :lol
 
Standard german AP tank ammo had a small HE filler. As far as I understand the description of the special 3/3.7cm projetiles they had a special light alloy casing that melted during the penetration and acted like incendiary ammo.
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« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2018, 05:20:45 AM »
They were supposed to kill tanks with this special and likely rare ammo, not light armored vehicles. I doubt they would have used it vs light tanks either but everything from T-34 and up.