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Offline Mickey1992

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Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« on: April 03, 2018, 08:19:28 AM »
Sad.  Do taildraggers frequently prefer grass over pavement?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz07Q5Etyjc

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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2018, 09:45:11 AM »
Ground handling is more forgiving on grass.  If you touch down a bit sideways you slide on grass, on pavement the tires grip and can lead to a ground loop.

I'm guessing the grass area next to the runway was intended as a landing area....makes me wonder why in the heck they had equipment parked that close.
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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2018, 10:46:09 AM »
When you said crash my brain feared far worse. 

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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2018, 01:30:58 PM »
Close encounter with a stationary Combine......comeon. We know half of these guys couldn't fly their way out of a paper bag, but why reinforce the truth.


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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2018, 04:57:36 PM »
What a violent ground loop :pray dangerous for spine.

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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2018, 06:44:54 PM »
Man, that sucks.

The pilot might not have been able to see the equipment, with the plane's nose up.

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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2018, 10:27:46 AM »
Man, that sucks.

The pilot might not have been able to see the equipment, with the plane's nose up.
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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2018, 10:35:11 AM »
He should have seen it before he landed, but it seems like he veers off to the right after touchdown and thats why he strikes the equipment. But its hard to tell how far from the grass strip they where parked.
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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2018, 11:24:38 AM »
He should have seen it before he landed, but it seems like he veers off to the right after touchdown and thats why he strikes the equipment. But its hard to tell how far from the grass strip they where parked.

Within a wingspan it seems.  :devil
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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2018, 11:32:24 AM »
That equipment was too close. It being there just increases risk even for aircraft operation on the paved runway.  Should an aircraft have a problem which causes it to depart the runway obstacles become an issue. 

In the US there are clear zone requirements depending on the class of airport.

But then I've landed on unimproved strips where my wing tips were bending down the brush along either side of the "runway". :)
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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2018, 11:53:02 AM »
I Think he landed with to much speed and had no rudder control on the ground with that speed. He was prolly paranoid and didn't want to push down on the nose to gain rudder control to steer left at the speed he was going. Prolly thought he would end up in a 360 on the ground and with all the thinking that was going on in his head he just didn't know what to do.

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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2018, 12:01:23 PM »
That equipment was too close. It being there just increases risk even for aircraft operation on the paved runway.  Should an aircraft have a problem which causes it to depart the runway obstacles become an issue. 

In the US there are clear zone requirements depending on the class of airport.

But then I've landed on unimproved strips where my wing tips were bending down the brush along either side of the "runway". :)

I agree.  That equipment had no business in the landing/rollout area.
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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2018, 12:01:56 PM »
I Think he landed with to much speed and had no rudder control on the ground with that speed. He was prolly paranoid and didn't want to push down on the nose to gain rudder control to steer left at the speed he was going. Prolly thought he would end up in a 360 on the ground and with all the thinking that was going on in his head he just didn't know what to do.

He was not too fast.  If anything, being slow would have hurt rudder effectiveness a lot more.
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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2018, 03:42:54 PM »
Well he must of had to much vodka

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Re: Yak crash at Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2018, 03:47:08 PM »
Close encounter with a stationary Combine......comeon. We know half of these guys couldn't fly their way out of a paper bag, but why reinforce the truth.

it's a cherry picker, with a photographer in it. It was not supposed to be anywhere near there.