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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2018, 12:53:32 PM »
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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2018, 01:44:36 PM »
Excellent.  Thank you kindly... :salute
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2018, 02:10:33 PM »
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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2018, 03:04:42 PM »
The blue changed as is evident in photos.  Some from fading, but also due to the paint choice.  In “Bluenoser’s Tales” by Punchy Powell there is a chapter on it.  I’ll dig it out when I get a chance later.

I think part of the cowling was painted over in order to add the DOPEY OKIE nose art.   I don't have any history on the airplane to tell me if it had another name before.

Which brings me to the next question...    What was the base color they used for this?   Insignia blue or true blue?  Something else?
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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2018, 03:27:12 PM »
Which brings me to the next question...    What was the base color they used for this?   Insignia blue or true blue?  Something else?

True Blue seems close to what is seen in most of the color reference photos Lyric posted. Start there.
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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2018, 05:26:01 PM »
True Blue seems close to what is seen in most of the color reference photos Lyric posted. Start there.

First try...  All I'm looking at here is the blue shade.   There is nothing else that is close to finished yet.



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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2018, 06:06:43 PM »
Looks too bold to me. Try desaturating the color (gray out) then darken it to get a similar, yet duller, tone of blue.

For example, the RGB 1943 and later True Blue is RGB 0,92,136. It seems very close to what you used.

I modified it to RGB 28,88,123



True Blue(1943) on top and my adjusted color on bottom.
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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2018, 06:49:08 PM »
I'll try it.  Thanks!
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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2018, 07:03:44 PM »
According to the 352nd historian Sam Sox, the blue has been match to two different remnants of wartime paint.  It’s RAF Deep Sky Blue, and was from British sources
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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2018, 07:14:33 PM »
According to the 352nd historian Sam Sox, the blue has been match to two different remnants of wartime paint.  It’s RAF Deep Sky Blue, and was from British sources

That's great!

Thanks Dan.
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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2018, 07:22:02 PM »
I took the RGB value from this source: http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/colourcharts/Digital%20RAF%20WW2%20Colours.pdf



RAF Deep Blue Sky RGB 46,110,146 is the top sample.
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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2018, 07:45:06 PM »
According to the 352nd historian Sam Sox, the blue has been match to two different remnants of wartime paint.  It’s RAF Deep Sky Blue, and was from British sources

Much appreciated.

I took the RGB value from this source: http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/colourcharts/Digital%20RAF%20WW2%20Colours.pdf

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RAF Deep Blue Sky RGB 46,110,146 is the top sample.

That bright?????????????????????  Wow.   That's amazing.  How is it everyone has it as something approaching a royal blue or dark blue?

Thanks man.  I will try that.
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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2018, 07:55:18 PM »
Here it is now...

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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2018, 08:13:16 PM »
That bright?????????????????????  Wow.   That's amazing.  How is it everyone has it as something approaching a royal blue or dark blue?

Thanks man.  I will try that.

I've seen representations of Preddy's "Cripes A Mighty 3rd" that is very close to that shade, but most others look to be darker.

Googleing "RAF Deep Sky" comes up with other darker mixes - some much darker.

http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2008/05/16/british-ww2-colors/
http://avionsenkits172.blogspot.com/2014/06/les-mustangs-au-nez-bleu-du-352nd-fg_15.html I like this one

Also, there's a post on SimHQ saying that the 352nd switched to RAF Deep Sky from Medium Blue in the autumn 1944 because it was darker. Explains why Preddy's bird is usually lighter.

EDIT:

Here it is now...

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Yeah, that looks much too light compared to reference photos. Try the sample in link #2. RGB 0,69,109



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Re: 352nd FG - Blue Color Help
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2018, 08:53:24 PM »
Can I darken this one?

Anyone like Lyric1 have a date for the photo I posted?
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