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Re: Most dangerous plane in the game
« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2018, 07:32:16 PM »
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Re: Most dangerous plane in the game
« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2018, 07:49:01 PM »
    I was using December as a rough example..  I went 57 for 3 with B17s... 17 for 2 with B29s... but only  38 for 6 with B24s...   Most at over 30k. The average works out to about 9.5 to one on just those 3 types, but spend all the time and effort You want to  pick My stats apart.....  And keep on trollin"

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Re: Most dangerous plane in the game
« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2018, 08:08:38 PM »
     I checked vraciu's stats .  It seems of the big 3, the Liberator seems to be his recent most dangerous plane.. I had to go all the way back to December 2014 to find a B29 kill for him.   The only other encounter recorded in his B29 stats was getting killed by one in Feb 2017. 

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Re: Most dangerous plane in the game
« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2018, 08:42:25 PM »
The most dangerous plane in the game is the one where you can press X and run away.

Other than that. It comes down to the pilot and his SA in them.
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Re: Most dangerous plane in the game
« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2018, 01:00:51 AM »
The most dangerous plane in the game is the one where you can press X and run away.

Other than that. It comes down to the pilot and his SA in them.
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Re: Most dangerous plane in the game
« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2018, 02:30:08 AM »
The more the world changes, the more things stay the same.

Bombers are dangerous when you rush to kill them. Such is the same in the real world, and it's why fighter escort worked. The fighter escort denied the attacking fighters the time to set up for good attacks on the bombers forcing them to either attack from directions the bombers were strong against, or to abort the attack. If you rush to attack the bombers you will lose. If you take the time to set up good high angle rate multi-axis change passes the bombers are easy meat. This  is perhaps a bit of a problem in a game like ours where the durations involved are much shorter, but the essential survivability is similar.

HO's are a little bit different because the nature of the internet does give them a bit of an advantage if their gunnery is very good. But if you turn a little bit and use their commitment to an HO gun pass as an opportunity
to start a well timed lead-turn you can quickly turn the HO into a quick and consistent advantage for yourself. For the true HO-tard, they are an easy kill from that point on.

The most dangerous plane in the game is the one you assume is no threat.

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Re: Most dangerous plane in the game
« Reply #51 on: May 26, 2018, 03:13:35 AM »
     I checked vraciu's stats .  It seems of the big 3, the Liberator seems to be his recent most dangerous plane.. I had to go all the way back to December 2014 to find a B29 kill for him.   The only other encounter recorded in his B29 stats was getting killed by one in Feb 2017.

The planes are not a danger, it is the pilot.   When APP75 is in the B-24 and you get impatient you will die--sometimes you will die even when you ARE patient.   That said, B-24s are second only to Lancs in terms of easy kills.  They catch fire very easily.

I'm here for the fight.   I don't bother with B-29s.  I've killed enough of them over my time here that the novelty is gone.  I have better things to do than to climb to 55,000 feet.

And please stop typing in all CAPS in the game.  It's rude.


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Re: Most dangerous plane in the game
« Reply #52 on: May 27, 2018, 09:14:25 AM »
I never did score a B29 at 30k with an I16 but I did get one at 20k.


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Re: Most dangerous plane in the game
« Reply #53 on: May 28, 2018, 02:17:44 AM »
I killed a B29 quite some time ago and I killed it so hard that I have not seen another in many months.
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Re: Most dangerous plane in the game
« Reply #54 on: May 28, 2018, 02:43:38 AM »
I killed a B29 quite some time ago and I killed it so hard that I have not seen another in many months.

ROFL

Anyway Violator, waystin and a few others got it right along with innominate's(spelling?) post

Back in the day, Damned GE (GreyEagle) and I took 2 P-51Bs up and slaughtered a formation of  bombers roughly 27 to 33 of them with fighter escort..... They were flying between 25 to 27 K alt, but our attacks from 2 o'clock/4 o'clock and 10 o'clock/8 o'clock was too much for the gaggle of bombers..... I'm thinking we both had multiple kills...what a memory

But when you stop fighting/flying on a regular basis even if much at all one tends to lose what knowledge(or forget) what they used to be able to do, and we all become "used to be's".....

Food for thought....heh

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Re: Most dangerous plane in the game
« Reply #55 on: May 28, 2018, 04:49:31 AM »
Best way to kill a set of B24 is to come in from 2 or 10-o'clock just a bit under the set at 200mph IAS, and use your effective rudder to shoot the right or left 2 wingtips at the same time with your A8 4 cannons and 2 machine guns starting at 800 out.
Then you move to hit cockpit on the 3rd, volá all 3 dead in less than 5 seconds.

B17 require more precision and luck as they have more durable wings, and often have better pilots operating them.

B26's are indestructible cockroaches, and you are lucky to escape alive with one kill following the same procedure.
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Re: Most dangerous plane in the game
« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2018, 09:47:11 AM »
Best way to kill a set of B24 is to come in from 2 or 10-o'clock just a bit under the set at 200mph IAS, and use your effective rudder to shoot the right or left 2 wingtips at the same time with your A8 4 cannons and 2 machine guns starting at 800 out.
Then you move to hit cockpit on the 3rd, volá all 3 dead in less than 5 seconds.

B17 require more precision and luck as they have more durable wings, and often have better pilots operating them.

B26's are indestructible cockroaches, and you are lucky to escape alive with one kill following the same procedure.

B-26s, like any bomber, are easy prey with a high speed pass from high six.  (You can offset in a cone to either side and angle through as well.)    I prefer around 450+ in the dive.  It works like a charm.   When done properly you’ll get all three. 

Oh, and I just whacked a bunch of B-24s that way.  Never even got pinged.    I will have to,try your wingtip idea.  That also works on Lancs.   My gunnery may not be good enough for that, though.  I’m shooting at wingroots on the B-24 to set them on fire or kill the pilot.  It is effective.   
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Re: Most dangerous plane in the game
« Reply #57 on: May 28, 2018, 01:56:29 PM »
Except on the deck with no room to pass underneath when they just levelled off from a dive to get to high speed. Then you gotta wait for them to slow down.

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Re: Most dangerous plane in the game
« Reply #58 on: May 28, 2018, 02:13:10 PM »
Except on the deck with no room to pass underneath when they just levelled off from a dive to get to high speed. Then you gotta wait for them to slow down.

I can hit them from anywhere.  It’s very hard to hit a Mustang doing 450-500 mph diving in on you no matter where you are.  A B-26 going fast enough to foil that is already compressed and has bigger issues. 
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Re: Most dangerous plane in the game
« Reply #59 on: May 28, 2018, 03:09:20 PM »
Thats fine when you show up with 5-10k advantage. Different story when you are upping to defend a field or cv. By the time youve climbed that high, hes rtb or landing his damage points.

Anyone diving my high 6 is gonna take damage even if going 450 kts. Might not kill them but they arent gonna be rearming either.