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Re: The most intense non-fiction audiobook I've ever encountered
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2018, 05:36:53 PM »
I believe that Zack is correct. We were so eager to promote democracy is the former USSR states that we supported their economies to some point or the other. We politically supported Yeltzin.

It was the right move.  We want Russia in our orbit to counter China.  The neocons blew that up in part by expanding NATO to Russia's doorstep.  Stupid idea.
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Re: The most intense non-fiction audiobook I've ever encountered
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2018, 06:14:27 PM »
The Russians cannot be trusted and they will invade us all :old:

When the Soviet Union collapsed who invested billions into Russia................?

Mmmmmmmm?

The USA :rofl

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Re: The most intense non-fiction audiobook I've ever encountered
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2018, 01:40:15 AM »
Russia,China,North Korea,Iran and Syria are the enemy and don’t you forget it!

Switzerland,Luxembourg,Suadi Arabia, Turkey and Pakistan are not our enemy.

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When they properly censor the internet they can have a proper war :)

The EU are trying to create its own army to fight the Russians :rofl how they going to do that with the French,Spanish and Italians.



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Re: The most intense non-fiction audiobook I've ever encountered
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2018, 01:53:36 AM »
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The further east you go the odder the people get, from Britain across Europe the crueler they become, eventually you end up in Japan, I rest my case.
If you keep on going, you'll be back in Britain  :old:
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Re: The most intense non-fiction audiobook I've ever encountered
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2018, 02:28:08 AM »
"Panzer commander" by Hans von Luck is an excellent read. It covers his exploits from the start of the war through the invasion of Poland,france, the eastern front, north Africa, the last stand in Europe, to after his release from the Russian prison.

Oddly, I found his stories of his time as a prisoner in communist Russia the most interesting part. While he is quite sympathetic towards the Russians and describes everything with humor, the Soviet union comes through as one hell of a rotten place, where officials corruption and individuals trying to screw the system is a way of life. In return the state is extremely cruel and indifferent about the individual. He mentioned that a few of the German prisoners were imprissoned in Germany before the war for being communists and even a nazi reeducation program couldnot cure them - but after getting a close look from the inside of a real implementation of communism they were all "cured"...

After reading all kind of historical accounts, I think that even during the worst of WWII, for a lowly Russian Russia was a greater threat to his life than nazi Germany. I always say that Stalin was just like Hitler, but with a bigger mustache.
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Re: The most intense non-fiction audiobook I've ever encountered
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2018, 07:18:17 AM »
I read “Night Witches” by Bruce Myles last year. If all true, it gave me a refreshing perspective that at least personal relationships on the individual level could exist not so different from my social interactions. While not the focus of the book, it seemed to readily flesh out details involving Nazi atrocities with little mention to Soviet ones. I just remember one brief excerpt that said to effect that sometimes Soviet soldiers committed crimes... Yeah, I’m a bit skeptical of the rose-tinted outlook.

“Beyond the Call” by Lee Trimble with Jeremy Dronfield gave a quite different account of Soviet conduct, attitudes and abilities.
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Re: The most intense non-fiction audiobook I've ever encountered
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2018, 09:10:27 AM »
Flyboys by James Bradley

One of the hardest reads - not because it was poorly written, but the story that James wrote about the brutality of the IJN and IJA forces, the mind bending baloney the Allied POW's put up with, the cannibalism the Japanese practised on captured USN and Marine pilots, totally blew my mind. Using them as bayonet practice. Other totally brutal acts of violence.

What is it with these psycho regimes?

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Re: The most intense non-fiction audiobook I've ever encountered
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2018, 01:42:58 PM »
Stalin was misunderstood  :old:
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Re: The most intense non-fiction audiobook I've ever encountered
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2018, 08:26:58 PM »
If the Japanese had invaded the US and did what the Germans did would the US been any different.

The Japanese did invade the United States when they invaded Attu and Kiska Islands which were at the time part of the Alaska Territory in addition to bombing US bases and ports on Alaska itself.
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Re: The most intense non-fiction audiobook I've ever encountered
« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2018, 01:59:42 AM »
The Japanese did invade the United States when they invaded Attu and Kiska Islands which were at the time part of the Alaska Territory in addition to bombing US bases and ports on Alaska itself.
That is like saying that Argentina invaded Britain by stepping on Falkland Island.
Not exactly what people usually imagine when they hear "invaded Britain ".
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Re: The most intense non-fiction audiobook I've ever encountered
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2018, 06:53:17 AM »
That is like saying that Argentina invaded Britain by stepping on Falkland Island.
Not exactly what people usually imagine when they hear "invaded Britain ".

We won that one a well 3 nil to us, as the Argentina is basically run by ex narzzies.

South America is run by old German family’s that have been there since the 1870’s.

Ernst Rohm a leading nazi moved there to train the Mexican army and fetle bots :old:
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