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Offline ONTOS

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New Bomber
« on: June 11, 2018, 12:34:36 PM »
 I don't remember if the A-26 Intruder has been mentioned before, but it would be a good addition to the bomber selection I believe. I really like the eight M2's in the nose and the option of eight more in gun pods under the wings or ten HAVAR rockets, plus the bomb load. I think she was a little faster than the B26 Marauder also.

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Re: New Bomber
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2018, 02:32:46 AM »
A-26 is an attack plane, not exactly a bomber and should spawn from the Fighter Hangars.

We need ju88 variants, especially an early one to fit BoB scenarios better than our current (later) model + an attacker variant. The latter I may actually take out of the hangar...

Also, if including attackers - Beaufighter and MK.XVIII Mossie. The former is one of WWII most significant and most produced allied plane we do not have (can be used in many scenarios from the end of BoB to VJ, all theaters of operations), the latter is the most powerful flying cannon of the war mounted on the coolest and most powerful plane of the war - cant go wrong there.
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Re: New Bomber
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2018, 02:41:47 AM »
A-26 is an attack plane, not exactly a bomber and should spawn from the Fighter Hangars.


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The A-20 is also an attack plane and spawns out of the bomber hanger, shouldn't be any different for the A-26.
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Re: New Bomber
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2018, 10:16:41 AM »
I would prefer to see some EW planes added first, not just the very late war monsters.
a short list of bombers:

DB-3
Il-4
Blenheim
Do 17
SM.79
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Re: New Bomber
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2018, 10:45:21 AM »
I believe that early war birds (Bombers) would be hanger queens. People would fly them for a month or so and then back to the hanger. EW bombers would be a delight for fighters.

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Re: New Bomber
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2018, 12:14:16 PM »
The Invader was flown as both the gun-nosed A-26B and the glass-nosed A-26C during WW2. The B and C were identical apart from the nose so if HTC modelled the Invader we'd likely get both the attack and bomber variants. The periscope-sighted turret aiming system on this aircraft might need some coding to be modelled accurately.

Early war bombers would be used mostly in scenarios, the game isn't entirely based around the MA. Having said that I think a new ride that's useful in the MA would be better for the game right now.

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Re: New Bomber
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2018, 04:38:27 AM »

The A-20 is also an attack plane and spawns out of the bomber hanger, shouldn't be any different for the A-26.
That is an annomaly that is heavily abused, since it allows for F3 view in the A20. The IL2 was correctly moved from the BH to the FH for this reason.
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Re: New Bomber
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2018, 08:18:32 AM »
I think the most important bomber missing there is Pe-2 - it was build in huge numbers (11,427), was very fast, was both true diver bomber and level bomber.

Interestingly, its diver bomb site was wind corrected similarly to level bomb site. It was very accurate in dive mode. It used mostly level mode as safer approach but was also used in dive mode for high valuable targets with more experienced crews.

I think we really need one.
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Re: New Bomber
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2018, 08:29:27 AM »
I would prefer to see some EW planes added first, not just the very late war monsters.
a short list of bombers:

SM.79

I agree. :)



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Re: New Bomber
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2018, 11:49:34 AM »
the JU-88 is also a bomber/attack plane and was originally designed as an attack plane even most if not all of it's variants.
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Re: New Bomber
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2018, 11:52:02 AM »
I would prefer to see some EW planes added first, not just the very late war monsters.
a short list of bombers:

DB-3
Il-4
Blenheim
Do 17
SM.79



a lot of the people don't even like flying the early and mid war fighters what makes you think they gonna fly early war bombers-building perks is only reason to fly it
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Re: New Bomber
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2018, 02:32:44 PM »


a lot of the people don't even like flying the early and mid war fighters what makes you think they gonna fly early war bombers-building perks is only reason to fly it

Two words (regarding the SM.79). Mediterranean event. Oh ... lookie .... another reason.  :D


The SM.79 trimotor torpedo bomber emerged as Italy’s most important attack aircraft in the Mediterranean

As the struggle between Allied and Axis forces for control of the Mediterranean Sea reached its climax in August 1942, the British Royal Navy launched one of the most formidable efforts to resupply the besieged island of Malta.



Between 1940 and 1943, the SM.79 stormi (wings) based in Sicily, Sardinia and Libya were constantly in action against British warships and merchant vessels. In fact, they participated in all major air campaigns in the Mediterranean, providing pinpoint bombing during the Axis invasions of Crete and Greece, the siege of Malta and the North African campaign, including the Battle of El Alamein. Torpedo-armed SM.79s either sank or damaged 20 warships, and 19 enemy merchant ships were put out of action and their cargo destroyed. It is estimated that SM.79s were responsible for destroying as much as 320,000 tons of enemy shipping, a remarkable achievement even in comparison to the tally of larger torpedo bomber fleets.

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Re: New Bomber
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2018, 12:58:10 AM »


a lot of the people don't even like flying the early and mid war fighters what makes you think they gonna fly early war bombers-building perks is only reason to fly it

thats their loss, if you only fly the LW monsters you miss a lot of fun. People should challenge themselves more and bring up the hangar queens once in a while. anyone can be good in a spit 16 or a pony but only an ace can win in a P-40. same with bombers, the twin engine ones can do a really good job and are often faster than the heavies.

There are btw no plane that can be added to the game that are going to be a game changer, pretty much all significant late war planes are in the game so any new plane will most likely become a hangar queen pretty quick or be a perk plane. Imo the greatest need for new planes are for scenarios, we have quite a few scenarios where we lack specific plane types. For example a high altitude version of the 109G and the SM.79.
IAR 80 is also a plane that should be added along with some of the EW French planes.
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Re: New Bomber
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2018, 09:47:45 AM »
they havent added a new plane or gv since january 2014