Please rate the "Fjord Fury" scenario

[Canspec]

+4.....it was fun.....thanks to all who put it together and provided the leadership.....

[Guppy35]

I'd give it a really solid +2.   

One side winning all four frames indicates to me there is probably some kind of design, balance, or scoring deficiency.   I prefer historically accurate settings, so this plane set was too much of a stretch for me.   Also I like more variety - this one was just four frames of the same mission - escorted high altitude heavy bomber strike.   

The terrain and cloud settings were superb.  Fighting in and around the clouds was fantastic.

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Oboe said it well. +2  Obviously the history nut in me didn't like the plane set being so not historical.  I had fun flying with the Mustang IIIs in oboe's well done 315 skin.  I would agree that if it were to run again that some tweaks would need to be done to even it out a bit more.

Obviously the lack of numbers really detracts from what scenarios can be as well

[Zimme83]

Historically accurate would be either Lancasters against nothing or Lancs,Mossies and Mustangs against the G-6, 110, 410 and A-8.

I believe that the axis suffered from low numbers and a bit lack of discipline. At least in frame 2  they lost almost an entire squad during the first boming run due to people reupped and got killed a 2nd time so when the 2nd bomb run launched there wherent enough axis pilots left to put up a fight. But this was by far the best setup for the axis, normally they have to do this with G-6 and A-8 only so having K-4:s and Ta:s was a huge improvement.

As for the scoring its always a bit complicated how to count the damage done by bombers and there are unfortunately no general rule to follow. An idea might be to determine the winner by looking at the scenario objectives. For ex if the allies sink Tirpitz they win, if they fail the axis wins.   

But overall this was a 3, not so accurate historically as mentioned but it gave people a chance to fly all the LW monsters against each other and thats a rare opportunity in scenarios.

[DaddyAce]

   +4

I really  enjoyed it!  I especially like the opportunity to fly with other players I don't normally fly with.  Always prefer a historically accurate plane set,  but this being said, understand the need to maintain enough balance to keep it interesting for all players, and appreciate the effort by all who helped with planning and leadership.  Thanks to all who participated!   

[FBDragon]

+4.5, It was a great escape for me from all the BS I'm going through right now. Diving into so many lancs in my A8 was a rush for sure, only drawback for me was the fact my FR dropped so bad when I got close to all the formations!!!! It got down to less than a 4 FR !!!!! Kudos to the allies for sure, they did a good job protecting the bombers!!!

[Vudu15]

I'd like to see some non sugar coated assessments on this thing. What happened to the Axis? If everyone keeps saying "this was wonderful I had such a good time cant wait for the next one" they will not improve and this same crap will continue on and on and on.
I know not everyone thought this thing was a wonderful feel good time. I'd like some GLs to jump in as well with some improvements what did you see what did you hear? PM me if you don't want to put it out here as I will defiantly drag it up. If it's my lot in life to be the bad guy about these things so be it. I want these events to be better and currently no one is providing REAL feedback to help make them better. These events will continue to degrade so long as no one complains and just is happy with what we have.

[Devil 505]

Yes, Vudu, I agree that these threads provide very little value in actually assessing if a scenario was designed and balanced properly.

Glad the grunts had fun though.

[asterix]

I'd like to see some non sugar coated assessments on this thing. What happened to the Axis? ...

You can find Ditto`s post here (June 24): http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,393274.0.html

[Vudu15]

Thanks sir yeah thats what I was looking for. The way I see it this reflects the speed at which these events develop. Limited time to look at the rules and then recruit folks. And as long as we continue to allow the pace to be forced on us by participating it will continue.

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[OOZ662]

+2. I had a good time and it was a nice introduction back into the game after around a decade, but it was essentially like loading up the same campaign mission in a single-player game eight times except with humans to talk to. I understand that it's hard to balance having a wide swath of mission type opportunities with ensuring both sides end up in the same section of sky, especially given the drastically reduced participation numbers as compared to 12 or 13 years ago, but that's still my major niggle in this case.

[ROC]

If you played in it, please rate this scenario by giving it a number in the range of -5 (absolutely hated it), to 0 (could take it or leave it), to +5 (absolutely loved it).

Devil, Brooke isn't looking for input on why some didn't participate. -5 and no I didn't fly it.  Your methods are biased.  Anyone who flew it would have gotten something out of it so it's impossible to rate it and see you did anything wrong.
This event kept me completely out of anything related to this "scenario".  Every Single Element.  Think about that for a minute. 

[bgoldy]

+3.5

[SKOzone]

5

[1stpar3]

  +5 I enjoyed it IMMENSELY! I really cant think of a reason to complain. The terrain was cool(pun intended). The Axis being able to launch BEFORE allied air spawned was a neat touch. Only issue I had...NOt ENOUGH participants  I dont have those answers. I just really like the format of these scenarios. Its more structured,I guess? You are given a task and know what your mission is. Its just different enough from Main Arenas to motivate me. Something different I guess. As was mentioned earlier though, maybe mixing up targets or some changes in mission parameters would have really juiced things up a bit. I could see how some may have gotten bored with it after 1 or 2 frames, but being with my guys made it fun! Ok, now that I think about it, maybe an evolving FRONT? Like week 1: Base x and Vh's xxx are targets-Attackers get them all and next targets for next frame are X or y or z: the next week depending on damage done its bases X,Y,z and A and so on till overall victory conditions. As weeks progress it gets harder or easier depending on the side that did their jobs the best? Just to mix it up,if defenders do their jobs best, they know your targets...if the defenders fail, they have more targets to defend. Spreads them out more as more targets are threatened. It would be that way on a moving front? Just throwing it out there

[save]

+4

The Good :

Good Map
Short intervals between takeoff and fight ( as opposed to the big Germany scenario where you averaged more than an hour of fight before a good fight started.
Nice setup of planes
Good leadership on both sides.

For Improvement :

Narrow down target area: its impossible to defend a big chunk of map with small number of defenders.
Devil505 - where is my White 20 A8 skin ?  ,  winter skin's would have improved the very good scenario settings even more !

MANY THANKS to Brooke who organized a very nice scenario.
If work would would have allowed me, I would been in all frames for sure.