Pe-2

[alpini13]

the reason given was that they were working on aces high 3...ok. we have ah3......has anyone talked to skuzzy and the gang to find out if they will be adding anything....

[Devil 505]

the reason given was that they were working on aces high 3...ok. we have ah3......has anyone talked to skuzzy and the gang to find out if they will be adding anything....

I can't even convince them to add a 110F. And that will take zero work to the 3d model. All the parts needed are already in the C and G.

[horble]

I would be shocked to ever see a new plane.

[bustr]

I look at all the new 3D models as new planes. Waffle has to start from scratch to create them.

[perdue3]

Still need it.

[Arlo]

'Need' is relative. (Usually to the likes of the requester.) Not unlike, say, a 'MiG Alley' arena. Or a Patton tank. Or rearm pads that can fix major damage to an aircraft that made it back on a wing and a prayer. Or an FPS element added to the game. Or submarines. Or ... 3D updates for everything already modeled (most practical work needed in game, IMO.) But yeah, everything wished for is 'needed.' In someone's pov.

[perdue3]

Ok, perdweeb and the rest of those who play events really want/need a Pe-2. There are very little substitutes for a Pe-2 in certain parts of the war.

[Spikes]

'Need' is relative. (Usually to the likes of the requester.) Not unlike, say, a 'MiG Alley' arena. Or a Patton tank. Or rearm pads that can fix major damage to an aircraft that made it back on a wing and a prayer. Or an FPS element added to the game. Or submarines. Or ... 3D updates for everything already modeled (most practical work needed in game, IMO.) But yeah, everything wished for is 'needed.' In someone's pov.

The Patton did not serve in WW2.

[Shuffler]

The Patton did not serve in WW2.

THE Patton did... A Patton didn't

[atlau]

Adding new planes reaches a point of diminishing returns especially of they dont offer significant variation. We already have quite an extensive list that's dominated by 10 or so planes.

Bottomline, adding a new plane wont increase the player base. Something really fresh is needed. What, i honestly don't know.

[Arlo]

Ok, perdweeb and the rest of those who play events really want/need a Pe-2. There are very little substitutes for a Pe-2 in certain parts of the war.

You've been elected spokesperson for events players (CM training wheels come with more authority than I remember)? I've wished for many planes that have no suitable substitute for event purposes (before and after the graphic upgrade). Events will be the home to which I return. But Bustr hit the nail on the head. HT and co. currently have lots of work to do, as it is. They aren't on vacation. Insisting that now is finally the time for new plane models (even my request for KW arena jets) ignores the need for 3D fix-ups on current models.

[perdue3]

You've been elected spokesperson for events players (CM training wheels come with more authority than I remember)? I've wished for many planes that have no suitable substitute for event purposes (before and after the graphic upgrade). Events will be the home to which I return. But Bustr hit the nail on the head. HT and co. currently have lots of work to do, as it is. They aren't on vacation. Insisting that now is finally the time for new plane models (even my request for KW arena jets) ignores the need for 3D fix-ups on current models.

I am sorry if I offended you, Arlo. I simply wanted to bump a wish for the Pe-2, which I feel is a very good candidate for the next plane in Aces High. I meant no disrespect to you or your previous wishes in the Wishlist. I absolutely do not represent the entire event community nor do I represent the entire CM team. I was simply rewording my wish according to your parameters.

I think AH would benefit from a Pe-2, that is all I meant. 

[Arlo]

No offense was taken. I merely wanted to place perspective. All wishes are important to the wish maker. Even when they receive a few +1s that doesn't mean supportive players don't think that wish overrides everything else. Sometimes we all need to step back and realize the workload that HT is actually still under. If all the current models reach full-blown 3D shininess (and there have been ongoing updates) then I, no doubt, will wish and back other wishes for new models of all sorts. The Pe-2 being one.

[Spikes]

No offense was taken. I merely wanted to place perspective. All wishes are important to the wish maker. Even when they receive a few +1s that doesn't mean supportive players don't think that wish overrides everything else. Sometimes we all need to step back and realize the workload that HT is actually still under. If all the current models reach full-blown 3D shininess (and there have been ongoing updates) then I, no doubt, will wish and back other wishes for new models of all sorts. The Pe-2 being one.

Once the few remaining old models are updated, I think it would be beneficial to get a few new planes out. Events have 2-3 planes that are desperately needed to flesh out designs. The Pe-2 is one of them since as perd said, there are no good substitutes for it.

[Wiley]

Once the few remaining old models are updated, I think it would be beneficial to get a few new planes out. Events have 2-3 planes that are desperately needed to flesh out designs. The Pe-2 is one of them since as perd said, there are no good substitutes for it.

Agreed.  When you consider the release rate on reworked models though, it's understandable that people might get frustrated at the likely amount of time it will be before we see anything new.

From my perspective, I like anything that adds to FSO/Scenario possibilities.  However, for the average Melee player the benefit is minimal unless it's something bigger and better that wouldn't be a hangar queen.

Wiley.