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Offline Frodo

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Re: sure HOPE this is a bug report
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2018, 08:59:30 PM »
More fights than I have seen in a long time.  :aok


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Re: sure HOPE this is a bug report
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2018, 09:06:39 PM »
More fights than I have seen in a long time.  :aok

....but were they fights, or just people running into each other?

Im all for finding/running into other players, but not if it leads to chasing more players to ack and such.

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Re: sure HOPE this is a bug report
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2018, 09:15:10 PM »
Full radar is often used for tank night in the AvA.  It makes flanking a target essentially impossible.  The enemy tank knows where the attacking tank is at all times and can just position his frontal armor against it.  Up a Tiger II, the frontal armor of which is nearly impervious to any other tank, and win every battle.  The AvA usually counters this somewhat by adding a delay time to the GV radar update (and by almost never enabling the Tiger II).

Personally, I suspect I will not like this change at all: it devolves tank battles to simple brute force frontal jousting.  No setting up ambushes at choke points, no hiding hull down, no shoot and scoot, just point at each other and bang bang.

I have zero interest in GVs so those tweaks I will leave up to you guys who care about that stuff.
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Re: sure HOPE this is a bug report
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2018, 09:16:03 PM »
I like it for fighters. I think the tanks and buffs need to be excluded if possible.
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Re: sure HOPE this is a bug report
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2018, 10:58:50 PM »
....but were they fights, or just people running into each other?

Im all for finding/running into other players, but not if it leads to chasing more players to ack and such.
Well...you know where EVERYONE is ALL the time,so... :uhoh  Will they fight YOUR fight,remains to be seen I guess. Sure, they still act as they always have... nothing will ever change that. No need to wonder AT ALL as to what  you are flying into. Made a difference in that aspect at least. Pretty sure this will lead to HIGH ALT furballs...Only way to get advantage since you know where they are....IMO Only an idiot would fly alone,low into a place with 10 red guys..not much of a difference really. Just that the Moans and Lamentations will evolve. I didnt drop a single bomb tonight...Felt dirty just to think about it. I am sure that it might grow on me though :devil
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Re: sure HOPE this is a bug report
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2018, 11:23:08 PM »
Well...you know where EVERYONE is ALL the time,so... :uhoh  Will they fight YOUR fight,remains to be seen I guess. Sure, they still act as they always have... nothing will ever change that. No need to wonder AT ALL as to what  you are flying into. Made a difference in that aspect at least. Pretty sure this will lead to HIGH ALT furballs...Only way to get advantage since you know where they are....IMO Only an idiot would fly alone,low into a place with 10 red guys..not much of a difference really. Just that the Moans and Lamentations will evolve. I didnt drop a single bomb tonight...Felt dirty just to think about it. I am sure that it might grow on me though :devil

Guess im an idiot that enjoys fighting rather than climbing... there used to be a lot more around.

Going to check this out after the brewers close out the dodgers.

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Re: sure HOPE this is a bug report
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2018, 11:28:49 PM »
Guess im an idiot that enjoys fighting rather than climbing... there used to be a lot more around.

Going to check this out after the brewers close out the dodgers.

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Re: sure HOPE this is a bug report
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2018, 11:32:24 PM »
Guess im an idiot that enjoys fighting rather than climbing... there used to be a lot more around.

Going to check this out after the brewers close out the dodgers.
Yes you are...but wasnt talking about THAT TYPE of idiot! I am one of THOSE....we know what we like and do it for the thrill...THE IDIOT i was referring to..was the one that will WHINE and CRY about getting picked or ganged  WHILE SEEING where ABSOLUTELY EVERY PLANE IS! :rofl
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Re: sure HOPE this is a bug report
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2018, 12:30:15 AM »
I like it for fighters. I think the tanks and buffs need to be excluded if possible.

I agree shamus.  And maybe even keep the below dar and icon alts of 250 and 65.

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Re: sure HOPE this is a bug report
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2018, 03:19:41 AM »
I agree shamus.  And maybe even keep the below dar and icon alts of 250 and 65.

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Absolutely! I dont have a dog in this fight, per say. Every thing is still some GREAT FUN! The radar thing would be something I think I could get on board with. I like this ALL DAR...but not quite enough if it hurts others. Gvs are going to get the full brunt of this change. Bomber/strat raids are in a dead heat with the Gvs. Would be so much harder to plan around these issues, while being able to see where bombers are lifting from? It sure did make it easy to find the "RED" guys though! It offered just about EVERY aspect of game play..IMO. Love hitting Bombers,bomb****ing gvs, and simple combat control? I think this sort of setting could really boost game play? Would absolutely invite more TEAM WORK,IMO AND NO....I didnt bomb**** ONCE...I felt dirty just thinking about it.
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Re: sure HOPE this is a bug report
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2018, 03:25:39 AM »
I like it for fighters. I think the tanks and buffs need to be excluded if possible.

Also exclude fighters carrying bombs (some planes score as bomber/attack so there is no simple line to cut off the display).

Or just connect it to the score-as stting. Everyone scoring as fighter sees everyone scoring as fighter. That helps people finding something that intends to fight back. But to protect their homeland they will still have to work a bit harder.

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Re: sure HOPE this is a bug report
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2018, 05:21:14 PM »
You need to get rid of the dar bars, they just clutter up things. Don't need them anyway. Get rid of the clouds, since you know where the planes are anyway. Might as well make it easy as possible.



   
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Re: sure HOPE this is a bug report
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2018, 10:13:30 PM »
Now we can get rid of the radar towers, radar strat, radar rings, vehicle dar, and bar dar.

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Re: sure HOPE this is a bug report
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2018, 01:17:50 AM »
The ingratitude and cynicism displayed by so many is utterly appalling.    Give the man a chance.   SMH.
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Re: sure HOPE this is a bug report
« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2018, 11:55:23 AM »
Give the man a chance for what ? Really. How much more will HT take away in the future? I still do not understand why they are doing this in the first places.