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Offline haggerty

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C-47 Crash
« on: July 21, 2018, 04:52:58 PM »
A few "ohshits" on the video, all 13 survived, plane burnt to the ground.

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Re: C-47 Crash
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2018, 04:56:59 PM »
Burnet, Texas.  Used to live just south of that town.  Lefty Gardner once put on a private mini-airshow when he saw my girlfriend and me standing out on the ramp with cameras as he was landing there.
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Re: C-47 Crash
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2018, 05:25:34 PM »
And a DeHavilland Venom crashed on take off, pilot died.

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Re: C-47 Crash
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2018, 10:51:20 PM »
Better to stop than lose it.  I would have aborted and taken my chances.

C-47 crash video full version:


https://youtu.be/Jq_CgAiuk7s
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Re: C-47 Crash
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2018, 12:08:53 AM »
That was a DC-9 that crashed, which is not a C-47 military version....

The DC-3 is the C-47 military equivalent just to clarify

It is indeed a great thing everyone survived

Edit- my bad, or should I say bad on the news people for calling it a DC-9 (which if it was a 9, it would have been a C-9 or C-9B for military)

I should make sure that I am fully awake and coherent before I take off and post or reply


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Re: C-47 Crash
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2018, 12:18:15 AM »
I saw it on the news at 6:30pm and could only think the dumbarse News reporter didn't know what type of plane they were reporting on

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Re: C-47 Crash
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2018, 03:01:18 AM »
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Re: C-47 Crash
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2018, 03:04:13 AM »
Looks like right gear hit something (cloud of dust from ground and right gear just before liftoff), and pilot right after that tried to horse it into the air too early.
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Re: C-47 Crash
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2018, 03:06:36 AM »
Quote from: Brooke on July 22, 2018, 03:04:13 AM
Looks like right gear hit something (cloud of dust from ground and right gear just before liftoff), and pilot right after that tried to horse it into the air too early.

He swerved off the runway to the left pretty early in the takeoff roll and instead of stopping tried to fly it off.    This was a loss of control incident.   He was in the grass long before the dust cloud—which looks to be the result of the tail wheel or even the right main being in the grass, too.  Should have aborted long before then and taken what came.   This is basic stuff.   
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Re: C-47 Crash
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2018, 07:18:02 AM »
Quote from: TequilaChaser on July 22, 2018, 12:18:15 AM
I saw it on the news at 6:30pm and could only think the dumbarse News reporter didn't know what type of plane they were reporting on

Do they really know anything about what they are reporting on?

On the Venom crash, one report had the a/c as a deHavlon.  :headscratch:

Vraciu, does the DC-3/C-47 require flaps on take off?
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Re: C-47 Crash
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2018, 09:25:24 AM »
DC-3 or the formal latin - DakasaurusWreckedus Damnearkilledus
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Re: C-47 Crash
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2018, 10:16:30 AM »
Quote from: Busher on July 22, 2018, 09:25:24 AM
DC-3 or the formal latin - DakasaurusWreckedus Damnearkilledus

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Re: C-47 Crash
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2018, 10:17:51 AM »
Quote from: MiloMorai on July 22, 2018, 07:18:02 AM
Do they really know anything about what they are reporting on?

On the Venom crash, one report had the a/c as a deHavlon.  :headscratch:

Vraciu, does the DC-3/C-47 require flaps on take off?

I don’t think it requires them,p—certainly not here—but they are sometimes used.  It’s all performance-based.     Columbo would probably know in detail. 

The tail should come up around 52 knots. Vmc is around 76 knots.  V1 is about 81-84 knots. 



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Re: C-47 Crash
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2018, 10:32:13 AM »
Quote from: MiloMorai on July 22, 2018, 07:18:02 AM
Do they really know anything about what they are reporting on?

On the Venom crash, one report had the a/c as a deHavlon.  :headscratch:


Answer: No, not ever.  If they don’t know the facts, they make something up and vast numbers of viewers take it as fact.
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Re: C-47 Crash
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2018, 10:35:11 AM »
Quote from: Puma44 on July 22, 2018, 10:32:13 AM
Answer: No, not ever.  If they don’t know the facts, they make something up and vast numbers of viewers take it as fact.

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