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Re: Suggestion on radar settings...
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2018, 01:13:17 PM »
Hyperbole on the latter part...
Only for the well informed.



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Re: Suggestion on radar settings...
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2018, 01:25:26 PM »
Only for the well informed.

The audience is what the audience is.  Those who don't know can go look it up and learn something.

The point is, people think this is a radar system not an INFORMATION system.   Hitech should change the name from radar to something else.   "Early Warning System" or something.

Of course then we will hear catcalls about AWACS...    :bhead
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Re: Suggestion on radar settings...
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2018, 02:43:54 PM »
i forget who it was in the mains, but he always ran NOE raids. i think it was dodger or dredger or something like that. i used to join up with them and they were great fun. what got really interesting was when the raid was discovered, which was easy by watching the darbar, all hell would break lose. i miss those raids. id be all for 200 feet. its high enough to go NOE, and low enough that someone cant sneak up behind you while you climbing and blast you!

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Re: Suggestion on radar settings...
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2018, 02:52:12 PM »
i forget who it was in the mains, but he always ran NOE raids. i think it was dodger or dredger or something like that. i used to join up with them and they were great fun. what got really interesting was when the raid was discovered, which was easy by watching the darbar, all hell would break lose. i miss those raids. id be all for 200 feet. its high enough to go NOE, and low enough that someone cant sneak up behind you while you climbing and blast you!
This.  Those were a lot of fun.



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Re: Suggestion on radar settings...
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2018, 02:57:05 PM »
i forget who it was in the mains, but he always ran NOE raids. i think it was dodger or dredger or something like that.
Hey i remember that ! i'm usualy a lone wolf on the arena, but i jumped into one of his raids, good o'l times  :rock

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Re: Suggestion on radar settings...
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2018, 04:40:44 PM »
Let's a assume for a second that all that aircraft intelligence makes it to a map in the pilots hand in zero time like it does in the game. That may be slightly too fast, but then the maps are smaller than in reality, and there's a fuel-burn multiplier, too. The game-world turns a bit quicker than the real one.

How does the position of ones own aircraft get on the map? Through a ground-based observer (maybe below 2000 feet being able to read the tail number) or radar, but without transponder for identification? If that was removed, all the realtime-updates of other aircraft probably would be much less of a problem.

In the old days, maps looked the same everywhere. Navigation may have been difficult on some maps. Today maps are sufficiently feature-rich to make the GPS feature of the map no longer necessary. Navigation is possible by looking outside of the window, the compass, speed indicator, the clock. With that removed it would allow for more other aircraft information to be displayed on the map without risking to turn it into an on-board intercept computer.


Although magnetic deviation is zero, the whiskey compass doesn't suffer from acceleration, and the DG doesn't drift, and the fully automated E6B shows ground speed - loss of GPS would probably cause too many whines. To avoid unified information about "self" and "other" for use as in-flight targeting computer, the only practical solution is to limit the information about "other".

An arena setting for "GPS off" (including hidden coordinates in the E6B tab) for scenarios might be nice?

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Re: Suggestion on radar settings...
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2018, 11:43:20 PM »
i forget who it was in the mains, but he always ran NOE raids. i think it was dodger or dredger or something like that. i used to join up with them and they were great fun. what got really interesting was when the raid was discovered, which was easy by watching the darbar, all hell would break lose. i miss those raids. id be all for 200 feet. its high enough to go NOE, and low enough that someone cant sneak up behind you while you climbing and blast you!


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Re: Suggestion on radar settings...
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2018, 08:54:04 AM »
Let's a assume for a second that all that aircraft intelligence makes it to a map in the pilots hand in zero time like it does in the game. That may be slightly too fast, but then the maps are smaller than in reality, and there's a fuel-burn multiplier, too. The game-world turns a bit quicker than the real one.

How does the position of ones own aircraft get on the map? Through a ground-based observer (maybe below 2000 feet being able to read the tail number) or radar, but without transponder for identification? If that was removed, all the realtime-updates of other aircraft probably would be much less of a problem.

In the old days, maps looked the same everywhere. Navigation may have been difficult on some maps. Today maps are sufficiently feature-rich to make the GPS feature of the map no longer necessary. Navigation is possible by looking outside of the window, the compass, speed indicator, the clock. With that removed it would allow for more other aircraft information to be displayed on the map without risking to turn it into an on-board intercept computer.


Although magnetic deviation is zero, the whiskey compass doesn't suffer from acceleration, and the DG doesn't drift, and the fully automated E6B shows ground speed - loss of GPS would probably cause too many whines. To avoid unified information about "self" and "other" for use as in-flight targeting computer, the only practical solution is to limit the information about "other".

An arena setting for "GPS off" (including hidden coordinates in the E6B tab) for scenarios might be

we have one sort of, its called axis vs allies. small maps and no enemy icons. we do leave radar on though, but with a 200ft minimum.

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Re: Suggestion on radar settings...
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2018, 12:46:59 PM »
we have one sort of, its called axis vs allies. small maps and no enemy icons. we do leave radar on though, but with a 200ft minimum.

Not what I was suggesting. I don't even think the game has a setting do disable GPS. With it disabled, the clip-board map would no longer show the "self" plane icon, and wouldn't zoom in on the location you're at (but to the center). It would just be a map. No more, no less. That means, the player has to keep track of his own position while flying. Field of departure is known, heading is known, speed is known, and of course the player needs a clock or stopwatch.

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« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2018, 01:21:46 PM »
Not what I was suggesting. I don't even think the game has a setting do disable GPS. With it disabled, the clip-board map would no longer show the "self" plane icon, and wouldn't zoom in on the location you're at (but to the center). It would just be a map. No more, no less. That means, the player has to keep track of his own position while flying. Field of departure is known, heading is known, speed is known, and of course the player needs a clock or stopwatch.

Disable Own-Ship Position is what you are asking for.
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Re: Suggestion on radar settings...
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2018, 01:46:14 PM »
Disable Own-Ship Position is what you are asking for.
Yes. And that's hidden where in the arena sttings?

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Re: Suggestion on radar settings...
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2018, 02:01:12 PM »
Yes. And that's hidden where in the arena sttings?

I cannot tell you if that even exists.   Hopefully someone will come along with an answer.
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Re: Suggestion on radar settings...
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2018, 02:21:34 PM »

That gentleman was:
Fariz!

Ripsnort, Ghi and Reaper24 also come to mind.

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Re: Suggestion on radar settings...
« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2018, 02:37:35 PM »
Flakhappy, was another I vaguely remember..was late to the gate for alot of his time. Reaper24 and GHI...they kept me here...well Skully helped too. Now THOSE TIMES were FUN. Skully had GHI's accent down to a T...the GHI and Skully Show ...with GHI riding in Skully's lap OMG ...eyes watering :eek:....must clear vision before :furious,,,,DAM TREES :banana:
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Re: Suggestion on radar settings...
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2018, 07:54:14 PM »
Indeed...Skully's GHI was better than GHI's GHI  :devil :rofl