Stop Giving Auto Ack Proxies

[Vraciu]

And this from someone who eschews achievements and score... take another look at ur sig

And your (attempted and failed) point is????????

You clearly missed mine.

[Vraciu]

   Eliminating the incentive is to not follow Them.

Then there will be no fights at all for most of the day.

#VeryCleverStrategy

[Vraciu]

easy solution, turn AAA and 88 friendly fire on.


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It sure couldn't hurt.

People living in their own ack is not good for the game.  New players seeing that will quit faster than I can type this.

[Oldman731]

People living in their own ack is not good for the game. 

It's really nothing new.  People were doing that in AW in 1995.  New players kept coming.

In fact, it's probably a useful assist for new players, to have a free spot to grab onto.

I don't like ack-runners any more than you do, but it's been a part of the game forever.

- oldman

[Vraciu]

It's really nothing new.  People were doing that in AW in 1995.  New players kept coming.

Are players still coming and staying or are they leaving?

WBs had a system similar to what I had in mind and players kept coming.

The fact is, this arrangement encourages and REWARDS ack hugging.  That's not good.

I don't like ack-runners any more than you do, but it's been a part of the game forever.

- oldman

Then let them run but don't reward them for their cartoon cowardice.  Hitech made a similar change that has almost eliminated BOMB AND BAIL griefing.

[atlau]

If ack does most of the damage and you ping the plane, give the ack the kill and the player an assist. Seems fair.

[Ciaphas]

It sure couldn't hurt.

People living in their own ack is not good for the game.  New players seeing that will quit faster than I can type this.

the bite goes both ways


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[Oldman731]

Then let them run but don't reward them for their cartoon cowardice. 

They only get rewarded if you follow them into the ack and die.  Runners gonna run, let them go.

- oldman (speaking of which, whatever became of Hetzer?)

[Vraciu]

They only get rewarded if you follow them into the ack and die.  Runners gonna run, let them go.

Which is the entire issue. I go for a fight and have to watch a bunch of people milling in their ack in Zekes and Ki-84s looking for proxies.    BOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRINNNNNNG.

It’s dumb.

And because of it I play less now than ever.  I’m not alone.   Perhaps you consider this a productive situation.  If so, I suspect you’ll get more of it. 

Take away the kills and they’ll venture out.   Those that want to run can pat themselves on the back for escaping—and that’s ALL.  NOT A KILL. 

[waystin2]

De-ack the field.

[Vraciu]

De-ack the field.

 

Which plays right into the hands of the proxy-seeking ack huggers—the very problem I’m asking to be addressed. 

 

[Vinkman]

Did you not just post about the ENY problem?

If the only players online are hovering in their ack then there is no fight.  It is not about me following them into the ack.  It is about taking away the incentive for them to do so in order to generate a fight. 

If they hover in ack or run to it at the first sign of my airplane (like guys did all night last night—even with altitude advantage on their part) because ack will save them AND give them a kill if I pursue that is bad for the game. 

It does not promote combat.

This is not why people dive to ack. they dive to ack when defensive, and it causes you to break off and they can then re-engage. 

[Vraciu]

This is not why people dive to ack. they dive to ack when defensive, and it causes you to break off and they can then re-engage.

Some do, some don’t.   Most don’t.     

But you make my point.    Ack did its job by clearing them.  No need to give them a kill for (losing and/or) fleeing.   They have received their reward. 

[ONTOS]

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[Vraciu]

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I’m amazed how many support rewarding dweebery.  I’ll never understand that. 

Thankfully Hitech didn’t listen to that crowd when he fixed the proxy range to stop bomb and bailers.