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Wotan · « **Reply #15 on:** September 29, 2001, 03:26:00 PM »

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must ask the Nik's, was that your mission? Who told you where we were rolling from in the 47's? In my opinion without cheating, finding us in 5 minutes is impossible. Shame on you.

Thats bs and out of line mate. read my post.

JV44 was at a1 we saw cons ib 10 min in which told us a cv was near. We expected a heavy attack at a1.

Sancho and the 56th were patrolling a5. Sancho reported all quiet and sent 2 guys north with the expectation of helping jv44. Enroute they spotted you. Shortly after that jv 44 had 2 guys patrolling sw a1 looking for the attck that never came. Turned out of 3 f4s attacked a1 and were eliminated we then sent guys out to patrol for the cv/or larger attack group.

They were there right about the time Frenchy and Nombe killed the last of yas.

it was obvious the cv was too far away for lvts so how were the allies planning to take a base. c47s they didn't see any around s a8 so we would have figured a7. Even if noone spotted you right off we sent guys to just eastt a7 to grab to attack an alt target.

imho you were dead anyway ya look at it......

Mark Luper · « **Reply #16 on:** September 29, 2001, 03:34:00 PM »

Buzzbe,
Frenchy and Nomde, the two N1Ks that got you guys, were patrolling around A5 when help was requested at A1. While enroute to A1 the defenders managed to take care of the situation and Nomde and Frenchy started to return to A5 to continue the cap. On their return they just happened to see you. It was purely accidental.

Our group was given the task of covering A5 and the surrounding area. My wingie and I capped an area approximately 10 miles west of A5.

I can certainly understand your frustration, I would have been frustrated too, but it was pure happenschance that they spotted you when they did. I feel that our squad followed our orders to the best of our ability. We never encountered any cons except for your group of C-47s.

daddog · « **Reply #17 on:** September 29, 2001, 03:52:00 PM »

Cheating? I really doubt it.

<S> to the 416 RCAF for trying, but it was just plan bad luck. I will point out it is rather moot since the squadron (8 of the 332nd Flying Mongrels) never even made it to the field we were to destroy for your troops. The ack would have slaughtered you.

We will take the troops next time.

Buzzbe · « **Reply #18 on:** September 29, 2001, 11:19:00 PM »

Excuse my cynicism, however, what can you expect (2 Nik's finding 5-C47's so fast). We could still see the base.

I stand corrected then and retract my statement. Just happened so fast it hardly seemed possible (in my mind and the rest of the squad).

I understand that Nik's are fast but to cover that much ground and catch us taking off and forming?

We also had a time delay because we had no fuel, plus all the Carrier issues, it's possible that your start of frame and our start of frame was not concurrent (most likely cause).

What is more upsetting is having incorrect settings wipeout almost a whole squad, then sticking to the one life rule (why?). This ruined the ToD and set the stage for our short flight and left a bad taste. I don't think anyone would have objected to starting over (corrected settings) and letting all take part.

Better luck next time...

"Wotan" I did read your post, I don't believe everything I read though and decided to question it, which is my right. No slight to you or your guy's, we were very frustrated and getting our concerns in the open gets it addressed. Not getting them in the open, makes it hard to get people to showup for the next one (ToD). Reactions generally point to the truth and I'm happy with outcome (not the C47 part).

[ 09-29-2001: Message edited by: Buzzbe ]

snafu · « **Reply #19 on:** September 30, 2001, 04:05:00 AM »

I think it was the fuel/carrier issues which were the biggest decider in this and the delay it caused in most of us getting airborne. We had only climbed to about 4K when hordes of KI61's descended on us from about 10K. Not taking anything away from the Axis forces. <S> The only reason I was there was to provide target practice

I think I managed to clear one person's six but didn't even manage a hit before becoming the familiar "Dope on a Rope". <S> to whoever shot me down. They stopped shooting the second I jumped to the silk.

TTFN
snafu

Virage · « **Reply #20 on:** September 30, 2001, 04:11:00 AM »

A whole squad assigned to flying goons? A big Salute to that squad! Ultimate team players for showing up if you ask me.

I don't think anyone should be asked to fly a goon in a TOD event. For a weekly event with 1 life, each squad should be given goals/missions they can sink there teeth into and get their members excited about.

Maybe base capture should be kept to the MA, with TOD maintaing its focus on historical matchups.

Virage

Nash · « **Reply #21 on:** September 30, 2001, 09:22:00 AM »

Oh GA before I forget to mention it... There was absolutely nothing wrong with yer orders that I could see. Seemed like a good plan. A lot of us just kind of messed up is all.

Buzzbe · « **Reply #22 on:** September 30, 2001, 09:51:00 AM »

GA, Nash is right. Nothing wrong with the orders, you can have the best plan in the world, but if the execution is off it's all for nothing.

Were smart people, we'll work it out.

Also 416 has no problem flying any assigned aircraft.

L8r.

SKurj · « **Reply #23 on:** September 30, 2001, 10:58:00 AM »

Heyas just a note about the crosswind..

As TOD is a "realistic" sort of thing, i think things like a crosswind are not a bad idea, mebbe not so strong though +)

SKurj

GA · « **Reply #24 on:** September 30, 2001, 11:31:00 AM »

Phuuuuuuuu thx Buzzbe, Nash

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Have tought about this all day long

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LePaul · « **Reply #25 on:** September 30, 2001, 01:51:00 PM »

All those in favor of a "Do Over?"

Geesh, wish I was in Florida and could dig up some of those liberal "We Demand a Re-Vote" sign

Nifty · « **Reply #26 on:** October 01, 2001, 12:54:00 PM »

A carrier would turn it's bow into the wind, not allow a crosswind. Hell, if we had been pointed INTO the 20mph wind, we would have easily got off the deck, lots of lift under the wings then. As it was, at first I thought something was wrong with my rudders, but I just went with it. Managed to get up using full left rudder. In any case, real carrier ops know about the wind, us virtual pilots have no indication in game about the wind on a field or CV. Windsocks, anyone???

Getting bounced from above was our fault for circling the CV while the CMs decided if they should be allowed to re-up. We shoulda just proceeded immediately to target.

daddog · « **Reply #27 on:** October 01, 2001, 01:28:00 PM »

Rgr that nifty! If I had us go streight to A5 the 416 RCAF might have made it. Oh well live and learn.

Next time the Mongrels can take the troops.

Nifty · « **Reply #28 on:** October 02, 2001, 08:40:00 AM »

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Originally posted by daddog:
Next time the Mongrels can take the troops.

There are enough of us that we can provide ourselves escorts. 4 fighters and 4 goons is plenty, 8 goons would be pretty pointless to take 1 or even 2 bases.

Even asking the 416th to all fly goons (5 of them was it?) is a bit of overkill for taking a base, IMO. Just a thought for the next COs that have to assign goons.

AKIron · « **Reply #29 on:** October 02, 2001, 01:01:00 PM »

Nifty, Daddog,

If it'll make you guys feels any better, your delay may have actually saved ya from being bounced by even more ki64s. Our main force was flying south. You were spotted by our scouts flying east. (Hope I'm not shot for revealing classified info)