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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2018, 12:35:37 AM »
I like this idea. We have early jets now in AHIII. Mustangs, Corsairs and other props were used (Bearcats?) in Korea.

Also the DCS jet jocks may also be interested. That alone could increase the subscriptions. And that could get some of them into AH's WWII arenas.

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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2018, 05:00:49 PM »
May as well start collecting profiles for the skinners (says the optimist):




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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2018, 05:05:42 PM »
Let the festivities begin.

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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2018, 08:19:55 PM »
I like this idea. We have early jets now in AHIII. Mustangs, Corsairs and other props were used (Bearcats?) in Korea.

Also the DCS jet jocks may also be interested. That alone could increase the subscriptions. And that could get some of them into AH's WWII arenas.

A list of what is already modeled in AHIII that would be historically accurate for a Korean Conflict arena:

B-29
C-47
P-51
F4U-4
TU-2
M4A3
M18
T34
Jeep

Models in game that could be modified but are essentially accurate shapes:

Yak-9
LA-9
LA-11
IL-10

The addition of the F-86 and MiG-15 and the 4 performance mods of the above airframes would make this a playable KC plane set with room for addition of U.S. Navy Panthers and catapults on CVs in the Sea of Japan (if the mere option of land based Panthers isn't enough). Generic MA maps would work in a KC MA.

This would be a project that is already 2/3 complete yet a major addition to the game with potential draw. :)

*And yes, more planes could be added over time if it's a hit.
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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2018, 09:29:03 PM »
I'd love to fly in the Korean Arena.  I flew in the AirWarrior Korean arena a lot.  But frankly, it was mostly a ghost town.  I think this will be a lot of work for an exciting couple of weeks...…...and then nothing.
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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2018, 09:30:46 PM »
I'd love to fly in the Korean Arena.  I flew in the AirWarrior Korean arena a lot.  But frankly, it was mostly a ghost town.  I think this will be a lot of work for an exciting couple of weeks...…...and then nothing.

yup remember the ww1 arena.  was fun for a month or 2.


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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2018, 09:44:42 PM »
False equivalency. There's already more to work with than the WWI arena offers and KC jet combat is vastly different than early bipe yank n bank pew pew.  It would start out as something more than the AW Korea arena.

Right now, just two models, the Saber and the MiG, would be all it would take to set up a 15 plane/vehicle set (if the LAs and Yaks are left, as is) to test the 'waste of time' theory. Everyone in the wishlist forum claims something is needed to shake things up, brush off the stale and possibly stoke interest.

That's less work than the entire WWI arena. ;)

The worst that would come of it would be closure of the KC MA with two post WWII jets being available for post-WWII events.

Seems a practical investment, compared to a lot of other wishes. :)

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« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2018, 12:54:30 PM »
 :airplane: THAT, would be fun to do! :salute



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« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2018, 01:11:09 PM »
At the VERY least, more types of FSO and Scenario's would open up.  That being said, I'd love to have the aircraft for an early North Africa (UK vs Italy) and Winter War type FSO/Scenario.

Either way is a win.  And not gonna lie, I'd be flying a Panther right away.  :aok
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« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2018, 01:31:49 PM »
And if the 2 KWC jets (Saber and MiG) prove to be interesting enough to provide more than a two week amusement it would be an arena with a lot of development potential on top of being a home for a lot of models already in existence. Granted, the Saber and MiG would be the two top gorillas (possibly perked?). In an MA style arena, there's all sorts of match-ups that make the larger number of U.N. jets less lop-sided.

Here are some of the more interesting possibilities (IMO):



A twin-cockpit design based on the redoubtable F-51 Mustang, the F-28 was used extensively as an air defense fighter and additionally in a ground attack role. From 1950 to 1952, Twin Mustangs shot down 16 enemy aircraft and destroyed four more on the ground. Despite their success, they were replaced and withdrawn from service in the summer of 1952.



Initially put into production in 1945, the Sea Fury saw service throughout the Korean War. On August 8th, 1952, a Sea Fury launched from the HMS Ocean became one of the few propeller driven aircraft to shoot down a jet fighter in combat.



The first F-84s arrived in Korea in 1950, with the initial mission of escorting the B-29 bomber on missions into enemy territory. Ultimately, it proved too slow to keep up with enemy fighters. But the F-84 carved out a niche for itself as an effective ground attack aircraft. Its most noteworthy mission was an attack on a series of dams in North Korea. The resulting flood extensively damaged critical enemy infrastructure and hampered the Communist war effort.



As the Korean War progressed, all parties involved saw the need for an effective ground attack aircraft. For the US Navy and Marine Corps, they found it in the Grumman F9F Panther. Developed in the 1940s and serving through the end of the 1950s, the F9F proved to be a powerful tool for supplying close air support. Armed with four 20mm cannons and an assortment of air-to-ground munitions, the nimble fighter could deliver its payload wherever it was needed. Given that the F9F was Grumman’s first foray into the world of fighter jets, the Panther’s achievements are especially admirable.



The first jet fighter used by the US Air Force in combat, the P-80 Shooting Star was a milestone in aviation history. The Shooting Star was also subject to one of the fastest development processes in history. The aircraft only took 143 days from the start of the design process till the first flying aircraft. Ultimately, the arrival of the P-80 Shooting Star did a great deal to turn the tide of aerial warfare in the favor of the US and its allies during the Korean War.



The Douglas A-26 Invader was a powerful tool in suppressing ground forces and destroying critical enemy infrastructure. A unit of Invaders based in Japan was among the first US air power components to enter the war. Their record over the next two years is still impressive. With over 15,000 stories flown, roughly half of them at night, the US Air Force only lost 85 A-26 Invaders to enemy action. Able to carry up to three tons of bombs, the A-26 was the prefect bomber for the mission.

https://militarymachine.com/korean-war-aircraft/



Performed heavy lift cargo operations to and from Korea. On 27 September 1951, a C-124A began FEAF-hosted service tests labeled Operation PELICAN. In a little over one month, the aircraft flew 26 missions between Japan and Korea, carrying an average load of 34,000 pounds, double the amount carried on the C-54.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USAF_units_and_aircraft_of_the_Korean_War



During the Korean War, AD Skyraiders were flown only by the U.S. Navy and U.S. Marine Corps, and were normally painted in dark navy blue. It was called the "Blue Plane" by enemy troops.[13] Marine Corps Skyraiders suffered heavy losses when used in low-level close-support missions. To allow low-level operations to continue without unacceptable losses, a package of additional armor was fitted, consisting of 0.25–0.5 inches (6.4–12.7 mm) thick external aluminum armor plates fitted to the underside and sides of the aircraft's fuselage. The armor package weighed a total of 618 pounds (280 kg) and had little effect on performance or handling.[14] A total of 128 Navy and Marine AD Skyraiders were lost in the Korean War – 101 in combat and 27 to operational causes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_A-1_Skyraider

Of course, helicopters were used extensively but they were mainly only rescue and M*A*S*H casualty carriers.

Again, that's only the 'room to grow' list if the short and sweet Saber/MiG addition proves the effort equals the interest.


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« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2018, 06:59:44 PM »
Boy, you're fickle. 

Last I heard, you were sporting wood for a Spanish Civil War arena.  At least there we'd get free Margaritas!

What do we get here?  Kimchi and Soju?   :D
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« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2018, 09:33:45 PM »
Boy, you're fickle. 

Last I heard, you were sporting wood for a Spanish Civil War arena.  At least there we'd get free Margaritas!

What do we get here?  Kimchi and Soju?   :D

NO not Soju!!!  I’ll never forget that night in the ROK.



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