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Re: T34 85 time for perk upgrade
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2018, 09:27:28 PM »
An M8 can kill a tiger if the person using it knows what they are doing. the 37mm is way too OP, it needs perked too!!!  :old:
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Re: T34 85 time for perk upgrade
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2018, 07:10:36 AM »
This is not about what gun CAN do to another tank once in a while - itīs about what one gun can do to a tank REGULARLY.

I have no hard data or the expert knowledge to claim that the T34 is not modeled correctly, it may be just a very good tank.

But my subjective asessment from playing Aces High is that it is the most wildly used tank in Aces High - and that is most likely not due to itīs charming name or lovely shape or because the skins available for it are so cool - it is because it regularly and reliably outperforms all other tanks. It therefore needs to get hit with the perk and or eny hammer. And hard.

P.S: (Looking at itīs gun and armor performance is also warranted, in my opionion. I would not at ALL be surprised if they found a bug with that modeling).

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Re: T34 85 time for perk upgrade
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2018, 09:29:02 AM »
I can destroy a T34.... simply let me drive it.

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Re: T34 85 time for perk upgrade
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2018, 09:36:53 AM »
I think it less to do with the T-34/85 being over modeled then the fact that most of the terrains in AH3 are suited for the characteristic of the T34. The T34 is fast and has a gun capable of killing most anything frontally shy of a T2 at 1200yds, the distance in which most combats take place. The other tanks Panzer 4, Tigers, Sherman 76, fireflys, and Jagd's are much better killing at long distance, but due to the fact that AH3 GV warfare is hide and seek tree hugging nonsense I don't see much use for them. Back in AH2 with the more open terrains, the GV action was much more diverse.


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Re: T34 85 time for perk upgrade
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2018, 09:50:29 AM »









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The T-34 is a Soviet medium tank that had a profound and lasting effect on the field of tank design. At its introduction, the T-34 possessed an unprecedented combination of firepower, mobility, protection and ruggedness.


dispite the info listed above, the T34 had 44,900 losses in WWII so it was killable in WWII-the gun 76.2 (3in) wasn't even the biggest.M4's 75mm and 76mm--panzer 75mm-Panther76.2, but could have sworn the in game panther was an 88mm--the Tiger1 and Tiger2 had 88mm guns. like I said earlier there is no reason to bump the t34's eny, esp to 25 that's ridiculous. if it is a higher perk then 5eny should be enough and its operators need more training or practice :D
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Re: T34 85 time for perk upgrade
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2018, 09:53:33 AM »
What was the ratio of 75mm vs 85 mm variants built?

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Re: T34 85 time for perk upgrade
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2018, 10:16:04 AM »
What was the ratio of 75mm vs 85 mm variants built?

sorry Atlau, I don't know how to figure that

but there were more T34's destroyed in WWII than M4's

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Re: T34 85 time for perk upgrade
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2018, 10:38:51 AM »
sorry Atlau, I don't know how to figure that

but there were more T34's destroyed in WWII than M4's

Kursk alone saw many killed.
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Re: T34 85 time for perk upgrade
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2018, 10:58:10 AM »
I think it less to do with the T-34/85 being over modeled then the fact that most of the terrains in AH3 are suited for the characteristic of the T34. The T34 is fast and has a gun capable of killing most anything frontally shy of a T2 at 1200yds, the distance in which most combats take place. The other tanks Panzer 4, Tigers, Sherman 76, fireflys, and Jagd's are much better killing at long distance, but due to the fact that AH3 GV warfare is hide and seek tree hugging nonsense I don't see much use for them. Back in AH2 with the more open terrains, the GV action was much more diverse.

I think this is correct. I’m no tank ace but I have had a long affection for the T/76 with its slow firing popgun. I have noticed I seem to be able to get more kills/live longer in AH3 than I could in AH2. I don’t think this is down to any skill improvement but rather, like you say, the terrain. You have to get pretty close to be effective.
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Re: T34 85 time for perk upgrade
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2018, 10:58:10 AM »
Hurri 2D likey T34 85.  :aok
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Re: T34 85 time for perk upgrade
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2018, 12:18:39 PM »
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Re: T34 85 time for perk upgrade
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2018, 12:46:32 PM »
Hurri 2D likey T34 85.  :aok

The stuka is also way more fun albeit much riskier than bomb****ing. However t34s are tough nuts to crack compared to m4s and panzers.

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Re: T34 85 time for perk upgrade
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2018, 01:07:58 PM »
The Stuka can kill any tank in the game other then the T2 with two rounds to the top of the turret, the T2 takes 4. The thing about AH3 that makes the T34 very suited for battle is the unrealistic trees and lack of infantry. Most heavily forested areas IRL are mostly impassable to AFVS. That would force them to stay on roads leaving them vulnerable to infantry ambush, anti-tank artillery, and air attack. In AH3 however, a tank can most anywhere. If the terrain were to be more open you would see more Panzers, Panthers, ect which have better sights and longer range guns. Reasons for heavy Soviet tank losses in WW2 had less to do with the tanks themselves, and more to do with doctrine and some minor details.
1. Some T34's didn't have sights and were forced to use the mg to determine range. Others that did have sights, the were not mounted properly and could not maintain calibration. The same goes with radios.
2. The Soviets were not overly concerned with casualties, They would use shock armies to punch a hole through German lines and exploit them with huge numbers of mobile reserves. The assault forces wear usually decimated in the process.
I agree with perking to T34 more in principal, but with so few new guys in GVS and since most vets have 1000's of perks to blow I don't see it having much of an effect. 


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Re: T34 85 time for perk upgrade
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2018, 03:29:35 PM »
The stuka is also way more fun albeit much riskier than bomb****ing. However t34s are tough nuts to crack compared to m4s and panzers.
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Re: T34 85 time for perk upgrade
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2018, 03:44:08 PM »
Perking does have an effect. It's the reason why most perk planes don't even get close to the amount of kills as a 5eny plane. The temp last tour has 1000 kills compared to the P51 with 5K kills, the yak3 and spit16 with 3500 kills and F4u1c with 700. Soo even today with players like me who have 12,000 perks, they don't utilized nearly as much as you might think.

Now, I dont know much about tanks. But i believe anything that gets 11,000 kills should be perked adjusted. This would cut those #s in half and would balance the tank fights a little better. One superior plane or tank outmatching all of the others is a clear sign that it has some kind of advantages over others.
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