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Offline bozon

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Re: The Israelis know how to make an APC
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2019, 08:18:56 AM »
They could be lieing at wiki but here:

Namers took part in Operation Protective Edge. During the fighting, Namers (which at the time were not fitted with an Active Protection System) were hit multiple times by RPGs and ATGMs, including suffering direct hits by 9M133 Kornet ATGMs, but the vehicles emerged undamaged and in no instances was the armor penetrated or injuries caused. In another case, an explosive charge weighing between half a ton and a ton of explosives was detonated near the Namer and a house collapsed on the APC, nothing happened to it and the soldiers, continued their mission as planned. As a result of its success on the battlefield, there were calls for the number of vehicles to be increased (beyond the 170 on order), and for them to gradually replace the many M113s currently fielded by IDF combat units.[26]

The US looked at it in 2012.

The U.S. Army conducted non-developmental vehicle operational assessments of current combat vehicles in 2012 to evaluate capabilities against requirements for purchase of a new IFV for the Ground Combat Vehicle program. One of the vehicles validated was the Namer.[31] On 2 April 2013, the Congressional Budget Office released a report that advised purchasing current vehicles instead of developing a new vehicle for the GCV program. Buying the Namer would cost $9 billion less, and meet the required nine-man carrying capacity.[32] The Army responded by saying that although the Namer and other vehicles assessed in 2012 met some GCV requirements, no currently fielded vehicle met enough without needing significant redesign.[33]

The US will never purchase something like the Namer from another country, allied or neutral. There is too much money and politics involved. The US will purchase from a foreign defense industry only if this is a unique technology that their companies have not developed yet, or when there is a very pressing need and not much time to get it at home. Simply offering a better product or a better deal than what the US companies offer is not enough to win the contrract. When the US and UK deployed to Afganistan and Iraq they bought a lot of stuff from Israel.

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Re: The Israelis know how to make an APC
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2019, 07:37:14 AM »
Remove the turret from either the M60s and M1s we have in the boneyard, install a door on each side of the vehicle. Mount the M60s cupola on the top of the hull for the TC. Put in some seats. Viola!  A real APC.
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Re: The Israelis know how to make an APC
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2019, 07:45:58 AM »
Remove the turret from either the M60s and M1s we have in the boneyard, install a door on each side of the vehicle. Mount the M60s cupola on the top of the hull for the TC. Put in some seats. Viola!  A real APC.

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Re: The Israelis know how to make an APC
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2019, 01:38:34 AM »
Remove the turret from either the M60s and M1s we have in the boneyard, install a door on each side of the vehicle. Mount the M60s cupola on the top of the hull for the TC. Put in some seats. Viola!  A real APC.

Actually this is how many Israeli APC were built.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDF_Achzarit  Based on captured T-54/55
Namer is also based on Merkava - some on Markava I so I assume they reused existing tanks that are no longer in service for this one
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