Author Topic: Unfortunately the jury doesn't get to see the NTSB reports  (Read 2507 times)

Offline Vraciu

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Re: Unfortunately the jury doesn't get to see the NTSB reports
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2019, 05:27:40 PM »

I expect that their claim is:  He was on flight following.  He reasonably assumed that, because the controller had him on radar, the controller wouldn't clear him to fly into the side of a mountain.  I doubt it will work, but it's there.

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Re: Unfortunately the jury doesn't get to see the NTSB reports
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2019, 05:42:56 PM »
He cleared him for VFR. Nothing in that clears him for committing suicide.
Or taking an innocent life with him.



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Offline Oldman731

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Re: Unfortunately the jury doesn't get to see the NTSB reports
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2019, 06:49:50 PM »
Flight following is primarily for traffic advisories.  It is not the same as being under IFR/Positive Control.


Of course that's true, as are all of the other observations posted above.  Seemed to me that someone raised the question:  What could his estates's legal theory possibly be?  Not:  How likely is the estate to win?  Obviously it is not an easy case for the pilot's estate. For his passengers, quite a different question.

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Re: Unfortunately the jury doesn't get to see the NTSB reports
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2019, 05:50:53 PM »
Well this is conjecture on my part but I think the lawsuit would be about apportioning blame to anybody who had any capacity to pay. The argument would be that negligence on the part of the controller contributed to the accident, sort of like if you are driving 50 on a 45 posted road and somebody pulls out in front of you from a driveway you might be considered to be partially responsible for the accident as you were speeding. As to the claim of negligence because the controller didn't warn the pilot that there were obstacles I think it is all in how you phrase it and the theater of the courtroom. From a laypersons perspective it could be confusing I guess. The other thing is that there is the old fact that often settling is cheaper than winning if you are the defendant. I don't know if that applies in a case against the government but against the manufacture of the airplane, (why no radar altimeter or air bags??????), I think it often does.
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Re: Unfortunately the jury doesn't get to see the NTSB reports
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2019, 07:30:20 PM »
It will be hard to get past two things,  was the aircraft airworthy, was the pilot physically able?

By his own actions, the pilot did not believe so.
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