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Offline Vraciu

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Re: Please perk or reduce the late war monsters
« Reply #105 on: March 26, 2019, 06:07:43 PM »
So basically that's the same premise for every other perk plane... It works for the other perked planes. Why not add a few more?

Yes.  By all means limit the choices a PAYING customer has even further.  That'll work.
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Re: Please perk or reduce the late war monsters
« Reply #106 on: March 26, 2019, 07:04:27 PM »
So basically that's the same premise for every other perk plane... It works for the other perked planes. Why not add a few more?

My guess is that Hitech doesn't see a change in the criteria he used for the current settings.

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Re: Please perk or reduce the late war monsters
« Reply #107 on: March 26, 2019, 08:13:54 PM »
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Re: Please perk or reduce the late war monsters
« Reply #108 on: March 26, 2019, 08:17:34 PM »
Yes.  By all means limit the choices a PAYING customer has even further.  That'll work.

That's exactly what is happening - limited choices. The difference is that the limited choices are arrived at via gameplay. That is what Violator is hoping to correct. He wants the gameplay altered so that there is more choice available in what is both competitive and free of a perk cost.
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Re: Please perk or reduce the late war monsters
« Reply #109 on: March 26, 2019, 08:21:11 PM »
That's exactly what is happening - limited choices. The difference is that the limited choices are arrived at via gameplay. That is what Violator is hoping to correct. He wants the gameplay altered so that there is more choice available in what is both competitive and free of a perk cost.

Sorry.  Not buying it.  *Force* people out of 190s and 51s...   Game over. 
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Re: Please perk or reduce the late war monsters
« Reply #110 on: March 26, 2019, 08:26:37 PM »
Sorry.  Not buying it.  *Force* people out of 190s and 51s...   Game over. 
It's not forcing people out of anything. The people who feel a 190 or P-51 is worth the small perk price will still use it and probably do quite well in it.

It's not forcing people out of flying something any more than ENY forces you out of it.
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Re: Please perk or reduce the late war monsters
« Reply #111 on: March 26, 2019, 08:28:05 PM »
It's not forcing people out of anything. The people who feel a 190 or P-51 is worth the small perk price will still use it and probably do quite well in it.

It's not forcing people out of flying something any more than ENY forces you out of it.

ENY forces you out.   Then perks compound the problem.   It’s a stupid stupid STUPID idea.  People will leave in droves. 
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Re: Please perk or reduce the late war monsters
« Reply #112 on: March 26, 2019, 08:31:15 PM »
People will leave in droves.

As opposed to the mass appeal offered in the stagnant MA found today?
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Re: Please perk or reduce the late war monsters
« Reply #113 on: March 26, 2019, 08:35:31 PM »
 This is like telling a pitcher in baseball that he can't pitch any ball over 80 mph.  Ban any pitcher who can pitch over 80 mph unless you are two runs down.  Because the batters are complaining.   :bhead
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Re: Please perk or reduce the late war monsters
« Reply #114 on: March 26, 2019, 08:37:33 PM »
As opposed to the mass appeal offered in the stagnant MA found today?

I love a rolling plane set.   I am an army of one. 

We can’t even get our airplanes out of ENY with perks...so now we will double down?

Whatever the solution is (zone-based ENY has been suggested) perking late-war rides because the OP wishes he could be Skyyr isn’t it. 
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Re: Please perk or reduce the late war monsters
« Reply #115 on: March 26, 2019, 09:15:42 PM »
This is like telling a pitcher in baseball that he can't pitch any ball over 80 mph.  Ban any pitcher who can pitch over 80 mph unless you are two runs down.  Because the batters are complaining.   


Heh.  I like the analogy.

Heavily perking 262s makes sense.  Lightly perking Tempests and F4U4s makes sense; they're clearly significantly superior to the others in the plane set.  (I've never understood perking the F4U1C - that plane is a pig.)  Beyond that, you're just tinkering.  Lusche's charts seem to show that the Doras aren't being used more than a few other planes; they're just getting more kills than they used to.  Really, who cares?  Let them run away.  It's far more challenging to fight the Spixteens and Yakcubers.

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Re: Please perk or reduce the late war monsters
« Reply #116 on: March 26, 2019, 10:28:20 PM »
^ Acknowledge my superiority and beg me to be your sensai post.  :D

no that's not what hes after there.  shida spent time with me and showed me stuff very respectively.  I also seen two players change from low tier flyers to top tier fighters in weeks working with shida.  and I an willing to bet that anyone that ever pmed shida and said "how did you do that?" got an invite to the da and was shown the move. 

and he is a very good fighter and teacher and some one to be respected

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Re: Please perk or reduce the late war monsters
« Reply #117 on: March 26, 2019, 10:43:55 PM »
no that's not what hes after there.  shida spent time with me and showed me stuff very respectively.  I also seen two players change from low tier flyers to top tier fighters in weeks working with shida.  and I an willing to bet that anyone that ever pmed shida and said "how did you do that?" got an invite to the da and was shown the move. 

and he is a very good fighter and teacher and some one to be respected

Are you attempting to say that Shida wondering aloud on the board why Bustr didn't seek his tutelage (mentioned repeatedly while Bustr doesn't engage him) is merely exhibiting a character trait of someone with mature, calm humility and not someone acting passive-aggressive on the forum?  Huh.  Difference being that you asked and Bustr wasn't interested so Shida decided to pester him. Respect worthy. :old:

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Re: Please perk or reduce the late war monsters
« Reply #118 on: March 26, 2019, 11:36:56 PM »
because the OP wishes he could be Skyyr isn’t it.

I doubt that is the case. Skyyr is a dirtbag.
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Re: Please perk or reduce the late war monsters
« Reply #119 on: March 27, 2019, 12:08:44 AM »
How about some kind of floating ENY based on the popularity/lethality of planes over the last 3 tours.

After all, even low 5 ENY planes are available 90% of the time.