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Offline TWCAxew

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Re: Late war Plane dillema
« Reply #90 on: April 03, 2019, 12:58:23 PM »
Novice aren't you more upset in this case about the HO's where they where not needed by the 190 and the Yak? That looked lame by them.

But on the other hand i do think in this video's case you should have tried to build up some more energy, i think it was to low in most cases so you didn't really gave yourself a real way with dealing with there attacks. just being constructive.

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Re: Late war Plane dillema
« Reply #91 on: April 03, 2019, 02:13:07 PM »
I did , I usually do it intentionalyto draw a fight, I fly 4-5k waiting for someone to latch on and hopefully fights on. We are getting side tracked here a bit but to sum it up.

Its a game and games should be fun, that is not fun for me or even if it was the other way around if I was a picker. I upped 190d last night and yeah I died zero times got a 4-5 kills but it took me forever and 3 maybee 4 sorties.

FSO I get the reality part is important and there I would do simillar thing due to one life and having to fly for 2 hours to get to the engagement.

I merely posted the video to show what others were saying not because  “ They suck , the guy who shot me down is a $&@&,or that he hoed me ” (insert whatever the popular rant is)

It is BORING and a waste of time.

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Re: Late war Plane dillema
« Reply #92 on: April 03, 2019, 02:17:08 PM »
The video shows a classic situation. The player picks a slower plane that turns better and complains that faster planes choose appropriate tactics.

So you are saying I should run from every plane that turns better than me? Hell no ill turn with whatever and if I get killed because that guy in spit 8 or 5 is good instead of a newb so be it.


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Re: Late war Plane dillema
« Reply #93 on: April 03, 2019, 02:20:27 PM »
Novice aren't you more upset in this case about the HO's where they where not needed by the 190 and the Yak? That looked lame by them.

But on the other hand i do think in this video's case you should have tried to build up some more energy, i think it was to low in most cases so you didn't really gave yourself a real way with dealing with there attacks. just being constructive.

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Yeah I agree with you l, ultimately had I known the type of players I would have upped K4 instead. They did kinda go for the front, but avoided it best I could.

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Re: Late war Plane dillema
« Reply #94 on: April 03, 2019, 02:35:03 PM »
If only there were someplace that people could go to get a 1v1 coalt fair fight in comparable aircraft.

That place is not the Melee Arena.  It is there for people to do whatever they can with whatever they've got.  Expect the HO.  Expect them to come in with alt.  Expect them to gang.  People are there (theoretically) to move mud and/or control the area.  They are going to do whatever the physics and arena will allow them to.

They are generally there to kill you by any means necessary, whether it be with their guns or dragging you to something else that can kill you.  How it happens is immaterial.  If you die, their mission is accomplished.

If that's not what you're there for, perhaps you need to look at popularizing one of the other arenas that has gameplay more to your liking.

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Re: Late war Plane dillema
« Reply #95 on: April 03, 2019, 02:39:07 PM »
So you are saying I should run from every plane that turns better than me? Hell no ill turn with whatever and if I get killed because that guy in spit 8 or 5 is good instead of a newb so be it.

I think he's saying that if you knew the appropriate tactic, you wouldn't need to disengage and run from a plane with better maneuverability or speed.  The game is more than turn and burn.

An example is your tale about flying the Dora.  You complained it took you a long time getting your kills with multiple sorties.  Had you flown correctly using the proper tactics, those kills would have been gained in a single sortie.
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Re: Late war Plane dillema
« Reply #96 on: April 03, 2019, 03:56:16 PM »
Here is a little sample of lame play


If you got shot down and you can't admit that YOU made a mistake that got you to the tower.  You will never improve beyond the paper bag your currently trying to fight your way out of.  :aok
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Re: Late war Plane dillema
« Reply #97 on: April 03, 2019, 04:01:26 PM »
If only there were someplace that people could go to get a 1v1 coalt fair fight in comparable aircraft.

That place is not the Melee Arena.  It is there for people to do whatever they can with whatever they've got.  Expect the HO.  Expect them to come in with alt.  Expect them to gang.  People are there (theoretically) to move mud and/or control the area.  They are going to do whatever the physics and arena will allow them to.

They are generally there to kill you by any means necessary, whether it be with their guns or dragging you to something else that can kill you.  How it happens is immaterial.  If you die, their mission is accomplished.

If that's not what you're there for, perhaps you need to look at popularizing one of the other arenas that has gameplay more to your liking.

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Re: Late war Plane dillema
« Reply #98 on: April 03, 2019, 04:14:38 PM »
If only there were someplace that people could go to get a 1v1 coalt fair fight in comparable aircraft.

That place is not the Melee Arena.  It is there for people to do whatever they can with whatever they've got.  Expect the HO.  Expect them to come in with alt.  Expect them to gang.  People are there (theoretically) to move mud and/or control the area.  They are going to do whatever the physics and arena will allow them to.

They are generally there to kill you by any means necessary, whether it be with their guns or dragging you to something else that can kill you.  How it happens is immaterial.  If you die, their mission is accomplished.

If that's not what you're there for, perhaps you need to look at popularizing one of the other arenas that has gameplay more to your liking.

Wiley.

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Re: Late war Plane dillema
« Reply #99 on: April 03, 2019, 04:19:47 PM »
Don't chase novice from the MA. A shift from paying customers to MPA freeloaders would not be good for AH III.  :old:

I recommend promoting a new sense of challenge where everything isn't about a fair 1 on 1 joust (it has it's place in development - it's just not the be all/end all thing).

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Re: Late war Plane dillema
« Reply #100 on: April 03, 2019, 04:41:47 PM »
Don't chase novice from the MA. A shift from paying customers to MPA freeloaders would not be good for AH III.  :old:

I recommend promoting a new sense of challenge where everything isn't about a fair 1 on 1 joust (it has it's place in development - it's just not the be all/end all thing).

 :cheers: :airplane: :joystick: :banana:

How HTC structures their payment plan isn't particularly my concern.  I just really, really wish people would stop trying to bend the free for all melee arena around their desire to have some kind of "fair fight" however they choose to define it.  We are not Chuck Norris waiting for the bad guys to form an orderly line to defeat us 1v1.  In the Melee, we're just another dweeb in the ecosystem.

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Re: Late war Plane dillema
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Re: Late war Plane dillema
« Reply #102 on: April 03, 2019, 04:47:08 PM »
No one is saying they are looking for a 1v1 experience..... #MissingThePoint

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Re: Late war Plane dillema
« Reply #103 on: April 03, 2019, 04:48:50 PM »
That is the good thing about flying a 38. If you are over the water, get really low and slow... everyone thinks you are a pontoon boat or fishing trawler with the booms out.
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Re: Late war Plane dillema
« Reply #104 on: April 03, 2019, 04:50:33 PM »
No one is saying they are looking for a 1v1 experience..... #MissingThePoint

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They are saying they want their version of a fair(er) fight though.  With all the window dressing taken away, this discussion can be boiled down to "Please make BnZ less effective so I can turnfight with these guys."

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