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Recordings in TacView ?
« on: July 10, 2019, 04:03:17 AM »
https://www.tacview.net/documentation/acmi/en/

HT - is there a way to make ahf files parsable ? It would be a nice feature to be able to drop our fights into a tacview...


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Re: Recordings in TacView ?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2019, 04:04:54 AM »
...and no, i didn't forget about it. Working on it  :evil:

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Re: Recordings in TacView ?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2019, 08:46:58 AM »
Problem is that the "films" aren't really films at all. An ahf basically captures the stream of the game running while you have it recording. It's not video or a form of video. When you play it back it just uses the game engine to replay the recorded stream of info so you generally see the same stuff as in the game. The viewer is able to show other info tho like players otherwise not visible to you at the time because of arena settings. It'll mess up things like clouds and sometimes ship positions.

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Re: Recordings in TacView ?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2019, 09:16:08 AM »
Problem is that the "films" aren't really films at all. ...

I believe that's a requirement not a problem.

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Re: Recordings in TacView ?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2019, 09:54:55 AM »
I just don't think the telemetry data this program needs rhymes with the kind of data an ahf is. Maybe.

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Re: Recordings in TacView ?
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2019, 09:59:59 AM »
Problem is that the "films" aren't really films at all. An ahf basically captures the stream of the game running while you have it recording. It's not video or a form of video. When you play it back it just uses the game engine to replay the recorded stream of info so you generally see the same stuff as in the game. The viewer is able to show other info tho like players otherwise not visible to you at the time because of arena settings. It'll mess up things like clouds and sometimes ship positions.

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Re: Recordings in TacView ?
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2019, 10:19:47 AM »
As long as I have been here and I did not know that. Thanks!!
Yeah the videos you see CAN be generated with the film viewer and come out really nice with some effort. I never got the hang of it. Dolby was the master at that. That's how he got all the awesome camera angles. I used to use Fraps which literally records whatever video is going to your monitor and saves it as a pretty but pretty huge avi file. I switched to OBS studio which has more control over file size and type AND you can stream with it. The short of it is the ahf is a different animal.

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Re: Recordings in TacView ?
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2019, 10:47:42 AM »
all the data is there, you can see it in the panel on the right. Question is whether it can be extracted :)

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Re: Recordings in TacView ?
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2019, 01:30:21 PM »
Yeah the videos you see CAN be generated with the film viewer and come out really nice with some effort. I never got the hang of it. Dolby was the master at that. That's how he got all the awesome camera angles. I used to use Fraps which literally records whatever video is going to your monitor and saves it as a pretty but pretty huge avi file. I switched to OBS studio which has more control over file size and type AND you can stream with it. The short of it is the ahf is a different animal.

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Re: Recordings in TacView ?
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2019, 01:33:11 PM »
The way to do it would be to just be able to choose to export the recording as a .ahf or a TacView file.  Or both, I suppose.

I doubt HT would let people extract stuff from the .ahf, he likely did it the way he did for a reason.

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Re: Recordings in TacView ?
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2019, 02:23:09 PM »
I've gotten the sense over the years the ahf file is also a debug of your game\system state that Hitech can review at a debug level when a player submits a problem and his film. Probably why there is an AVI export option for film makers.
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