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Offline RUSH1

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Re: planes being main gunned
« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2019, 04:32:19 PM »
.........and do not forget how accurate the GV dar was back in WWII.

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If you get main gunned by a tank it is your own fault. Don't come in so low. The T-34/76 and T-34/85 can have turrets that can point up allot higher
than the other tanks in the game. Avoid them. Also, many gv'ers load HE rounds when they are strafed by an air con. If they bounce an HE round off of a tree, building, hillside, ect......... you go boom when it explodes. There is nothing more fun than bouncing HE rounds on the runway when planes are taking off.   :D :D :D




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Re: planes being main gunned
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2019, 04:38:48 PM »
I have shot planes down inside 1.0 with an 88. The actual round hits the plane and you see the sprite.
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Re: planes being main gunned
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2019, 08:21:39 PM »
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What was their approach like, and was it repeated?  How many attempts?

Well it was an army tank range so all approaches were from the impact area (90° of the firing line). Most attack runs were low-to-medium altitude ( a few 1000 ft off the ground) speeds went from super slow to holy crap fast! All passed right over top of the firing line. The thing you have to understand and AH we have a totally unrealistic Commander's position. We have a super unrealistic Zoom and the commander can fire the gun without having to drop down to a gun sight (if the tank had one, most tank commanders was unable to move the gun, let alone fire it ) because we draw overlays on our monitor. (one of many things that need to be fixed in this game)

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Re: planes being main gunned
« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2019, 10:18:44 PM »
  Hitech has tried to make the flight model of the aircraft as realistic as possible.  Hitech has also tried to make the flight characteristics of bullets, including tanks shells, as realistic as possible.  Unless you can prove that a tank shell cannot hit an airplane, you really don't have a complaint.  If you can show that the flight model of the plane or the shell is inaccurate, then show Hitech the data.  Saying "tanks can't hit airplanes like that" is not evidence.

And here is a story of a guy who claimed to have done it:

https://defensionem.com/tank-shoots-down-a-plane/

So yes, it was a one in a thousand shot, but it could be done.  It happens more often here than in real life because we insist on trying to fly down the tanks gun barrel.
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Re: planes being main gunned
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2019, 09:13:02 AM »
A "one in a thousand shot" is a "career " for real life guys,  for us in the game,  it's a weekend of playing. The situation where a plane is on the best flight path to be hit by a tank in game comes up often enough that you can practice and get good at it. Real life, not so much.

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Re: planes being main gunned
« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2019, 11:59:39 AM »
A "one in a thousand shot" is a "career " for real life guys,  for us in the game,  it's a weekend of playing. The situation where a plane is on the best flight path to be hit by a tank in game comes up often enough that you can practice and get good at it. Real life, not so much.

That is it in a nutshell.
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Re: planes being main gunned
« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2019, 07:50:21 PM »

I still say it's unrealistic Zoom levels, the ability to fire/aim the main gun and the coax machine gun by using a home made sight on your monitor and the fact that the tank commander can move the turret at all in game is what leads to a unrealistic kill rate in AH........... you do not a lot of main kills in WW2OL.


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Re: planes being main gunned
« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2019, 09:49:20 PM »
Tankers in AH have many more hours of experience and no chance of death.
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Re: planes being main gunned
« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2019, 11:26:32 PM »
I main gunned 3 of Notars Lancs one day, man I was All puffed up. :devil
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Re: planes being main gunned
« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2019, 08:15:30 AM »
I main gunned 3 of Notars Lancs one day, man I was All puffed up. :devil

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Re: planes being main gunned
« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2019, 09:42:56 AM »
This is right up there with 'No enemy CVs were sunk by level bombing'.

The math is simple.. calculate the trajectory of the shell/bomb.

If that trajectory intersects the trajectory of another vehicle ( air/ground/sea ) then calculate damage.

The thing folks are blatently ignoring is the thousands of hours of game play we have vs. the actual hours of practice enjoyed by the real combatants. A lot of the lessons we have learned over the years were also learned by many of the combatants, yet they didn't have the luxury of being able to live after the lesson was learned. 

These thousands of hours of experience have been used to accurately calculate such aformentioned trajectories.

Given enough players, we could lay out a level bombing strategy where no fleet could possibly escape destruction, there are only so many angles/velocities that can be changed, and you can account for that.

So treat getting main'd by GVs like having to end your flight on a runway for successful landing.  You know they can kill you.. don't give them that shot.


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Re: planes being main gunned
« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2019, 10:29:38 AM »
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If they bounce an HE round off of a tree, building, hillside, ect......... you go boom when it explodes.

I did not know that.

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Re: planes being main gunned
« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2019, 11:53:57 AM »
The thing is , again, the way HTC is set up one can do things in the program, one can not do in real life. A lot of things in HTC is for convince and playability, it doesn't make it right.
 For example, bombers almost making dogfighting maneuvers. Thirty ton tanks being stopped by small trees.

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Re: planes being main gunned
« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2019, 09:20:29 PM »
I've killed aircraft 10k away. Seriously. Freshly spawned aircraft.  :devil

Airplanes that try to mark your position are the easiest. HE splash damage is incredible!
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Re: planes being main gunned
« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2019, 03:36:53 AM »
Wiley,

My preference is that I wish tanks could not shoot down planes in main guns as they did not do this (at these frequencies at least) in WWII.  Modeling the game closer to WWII is my pref.  :salute

if they can do it from the gunners position, I'm all for it, otherwise - NO !
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