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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2019, 03:44:31 PM »
Crashing into a fuel farm will ruin any aircraft and crews day.

Word is that was a deicing pad.
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2019, 03:51:41 PM »
Glycol ignites at 700*. It didn’t help matters.


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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2019, 03:54:08 PM »
Glycol ignites at 700*. It didn’t help matters.

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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2019, 03:55:29 PM »
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2019, 03:57:40 PM »
Reports are that at least 5 are dead. There are more critical.
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2019, 04:06:32 PM »
Let’s hope the FAA doesn’t overreact and ban revenue rides in these airplanes again...
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2019, 04:19:31 PM »
But shortly after takeoff, the pilot told air traffic control: "N93012 would like to return to the field."
"What is the reason for coming back?" the controller asked.
"You got No. 4 engine. We'd like to return, and blow it out," another pilot in the aircraft said.
A pilot said he needed to land immediately, and the control tower diverted other jets that were about to land, the recording indicates.


Sounds like an engine fire.  Right after takeoff.  Not many good choices.

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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2019, 05:01:42 PM »
Let’s hope the FAA doesn’t overreact and ban revenue rides in these airplanes again...

I agree but at the risk of being completely obtuse, I wonder when  Boeing will be blamed for this one too.

But my prayers are with all those involved and their families.
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2019, 05:34:53 PM »
I agree but at the risk of being completely obtuse, I wonder when  Boeing will be blamed for this one too.

But my prayers are with all those involved and their families.

I wonder if GAMA covers B-17s.    :bolt:
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2019, 07:16:30 PM »
A problem with the engine
Homendy said the preliminary investigation revealed that the B-17 took off from the airports runway 6 at about 9:45 a.m. “At about 9:50 a.m. the crew contacted the tower and reported an issue with the airplane. We are looking into that report for further information. We know that the crew circled back to runway 6 and attempted to land on runway 6.”
As it touched down, the airplane “impacted the instrument landing system stanchions, veered to the right, over a grassy area, over the taxiway and impacted the deicing facility," she said.”



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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2019, 07:30:59 PM »
Tragic.

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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2019, 07:32:43 PM »
A problem with the engine
Homendy said the preliminary investigation revealed that the B-17 took off from the airports runway 6 at about 9:45 a.m. “At about 9:50 a.m. the crew contacted the tower and reported an issue with the airplane. We are looking into that report for further information. We know that the crew circled back to runway 6 and attempted to land on runway 6.”
As it touched down, the airplane “impacted the instrument landing system stanchions, veered to the right, over a grassy area, over the taxiway and impacted the deicing facility," she said.”

Ugh.   That sucks so bad.    :(
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2019, 07:36:34 PM »
Another witness said one engine was not operating. That was earlier today.
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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2019, 07:39:43 PM »
Another witness said one engine was not operating. That was earlier today.

I read engine fire somewhere. 


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Re: BREAKING - B-17G bomber crashed near Hartford
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2019, 12:00:57 AM »
Strange what people are saying about losing an engine as if that explains it all.  Something else had to have been a major contributor in the accident chain.  Losing 1 engine on 4 engine radial plane is a common occurrence, a 3 engine landing on a runway of that length should be routine and easy.  Curious if when they blew the bottles it extinguished the fire or not, I imagine a lingering fire warning could have distracted the crew, loss of SA, landing way short if they hit the ILS stanchion.


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