Hey Funked

[Nash]

Can ya post the url/s to the CVR info you were talking about?

[funked]

No.

[funked]

OK I changed my mind.  

CVR Transcripts and other accident related information:  http://www.aviation-safety.net/

Some CVR recordings (not for the faint of heart):  http://www.airdisaster.com/cvr/cvrwav.html
 http://mhowells.50megs.com/

Some pictures (non-fatal accidents):  http://www.aviationpics.de/

[Vermillion]

Ok Funked I hate you  

I have the kind of personality, that if someone says "You really don't want to do that", I have to find out what they're talking about.

Of course I listened to everyone of those cockpit recordings. And watched every video. I am sitting here still getting a cold shudder ocaisonally. Thank God, most of the audio recordings were extremely difficult to make out, or I think it would have been even worse.

I do have to give a big thumbs up to that UPS DC-8 crew in the video clip!! Damn I thought they were definitely goners.

And of course I want to reach thru time and space to shake the handsomehunk cockpit crew, that were screwing around talking about who the stewardess's were sleeping with and boasting about how it was "saved for posterity on the recorder if something happened" and then they forgot to check the flaps position and subsequently crashed. Stupid, real stupid.

But I think the thing that effected me the most, and even brought tears to my eyes, was the full length TW800 file.

After tower recieved several reports of an explosion the following conversation occurred.

Tower (repeated several times): "TWA800, please respond...."
United Airlines Pilot (inflight, saw the explosion): "I think that was them"
Tower:" I think so"
UA Pilot: " God Bless them all....."

And that last transmission just keeps repeating in my head.

God Bless them all.


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Vermillion
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[Nash]

Heavy indeed. Thanks Funked. Had a bit different perspective flyin' around the MA today after perusin' that stuff.

[funked]

Yeah this stuff makes you think.  Actually it makes you want to drive instead of fly.    

For me it hits home two ways.

I spent the last two years working for an actuation systems company, on things like flaps and slats and pitch trim (and bomb doors heehe).  Anyways a lot of the stuff I worked on was for airliners, and reading these reports really makes you think about how important it is to do a good job.  And you can see why certain design rules exist - because doing it the other way got a bunch of people killed once.

Also I was in a B777 that hit windshear at DEN last year.  We had to make three approaches before landing.  The first time, I'm pretty sure we stalled briefly, and we dropped one wing probably 70 degrees, then dropped the other wing.  A lot of stuff flew around the airplane, and we lost a lot of altitude, then recovered with the engines really howling.  Anyways about 30 seconds or so of that approach went just like the beginning of one of these transcripts...

[This message has been edited by funked (edited 05-22-2000).]