How have we lost so many people to this wonderful game?

[CptTrips]

Some missions to escort drones would be fun.   Maybe points for saving a percentage of them?  Airborne invasions of random fields by drones to generate action?

Attempting to put AI in the Melee would summon a shrieking that would make the sound from asking for 2-sides seem like a Southern Baptist church choir.

We gotta think outside the box.   

You can think out of the box all you want as long as the end result doesn't deviate from what we have now. 

[Max]

We gotta think outside the box.   

What you mean "we", Kimosabe?

[DmonSlyr]

And this is the nut that needs to be cracked. I haven't found the correct nut cracker yet. But I can show you a huge pile of broken crackers.

HiTech

Unfortunately, $15 a month is a hard bargain these days. You are dealing with a majority of 12-35 year olds on steam who don't want to pay for food, much less video games. Without the H2H system like we had in the 05s, it's very hard to get people to sign up after 2 weeks.

When you can get Halo master series right now for $40 and never pay another dime again. They are going to flock to it. Granted it's a much easier game to learn.

I'm sure there are some other reasons like graphics and learnability that scared people away.

Most people don't stick around simply because it's too hard and mean for them. It ain't an arcade that pops you right into the action, so they get discouraged and leave on some of these big maps that take awhile to get to an enemy.

[DmonSlyr]

I just wish there was like 2-4 planes in the MA that were free all time. It would really encourage people to subscribe. It would allow friends to play who are on the fence and already used their 2 week trial. It would easily populate the arena and create much bigger fights overall. People would be iching to fly that P51 and would subscribe. This would be a huge key to populating the MA again. A great promotion like this wouldnt hurt.

[Vraciu]

I just wish there was like 2-4 planes in the MA that were free all time. It would really encourage people to subscribe. It would allow friends to play who are on the fence and already used their 2 week trial. It would easily populate the arena and create much bigger fights overall. People would be iching to fly that P51 and would subscribe. This would be a huge key to populating the MA again. A great promotion like this wouldnt hurt.

This is the deal right here.   Let’s get the teens who balk at paying to at least fly SOMETHING and once they get hooked they’ll want more. 

Give them a tier system.   

- Two rides free (chosen by Hitech).
- Pay X $ for all EW.   
- Pay X for all EW and MW.   
- Pay $15 for everything. 

This makes the game truly FREE TO PLAY and will give them time to become hooked.   

It doesn’t solve the issues related to getting into flight but it will answer the complaints that the game isn’t free and bring more targets for those who pay.   It also makes sense on some level to the grinding crowd. 

[guncrasher]

Viracu if they won't stay and complete their 2 week trial, what makes you think they will stay with a few free airplanes.

But I can tell you what would happen, some subscribers would drop paying and fly spitv.


semp

[DmonSlyr]

Viracu if they won't stay and complete their 2 week trial, what makes you think they will stay with a few free airplanes.

But I can tell you what would happen, some subscribers would drop paying and fly spitv.


semp

After about 2 weeks of flying spit5s. I can promise you they would resubscribe.

Setting up the JS and mouse controls are always the hardest part.

Most need people have a really hard time in the MA when they are new. That's why a feeder fighter bowl that puts them right into quick action would do wonders at showing  them the game, getting them into a fight, and be able to ask questions in a smaller environment.

[Ciaphas]

And this is the nut that needs to be cracked. I haven't found the correct nut cracker yet. But I can show you a huge pile of broken crackers.

HiTech

I suspect that forcing a minimal training mission before entering the MA would prove to be advantageous to most new guys.

A tiered sub amount may work to sweeten the deal as it would allow them to chose their level of involvement.

Remove the nearly empty arenas or consolidate them to remove the appearance of an "empty parking lot" and remove the max number from the arena population table. Just show the amount online.

time for chow, more to come later.


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[CAV]

The game has never been the same since they stopped posting missions.

Who can blame them for stopping...............

If you attack the base and killed the hangers, the furballer would start crying...

If went after a undefended base, the "win the types" got mad, especially if you went NOE in force.

If you tried to plan out mission, they're always seem to be a few people who knew exactly where the M3 and the C47 was hiding. And made a beeline straight to them.
(but it is okay side switching and cross-country chat doesn't promote spying... or so players tell me)

[Vraciu]

Viracu if they won't stay and complete their 2 week trial, what makes you think they will stay with a few free airplanes.

But I can tell you what would happen, some subscribers would drop paying and fly spitv.


semp

We lost a lot players on Steam AFTER the free trial.    Read the reviews.    People complain about the sub.  Many don't even bother trying because of it. 

As noted, there is a huge psychological barrier to "cancel anytime" when you have to put in a credit card number.

I doubt many current subscribers would cancel to fly a Spit V.   I sure as heck won't.

[Vraciu]

I suspect that forcing a minimal training mission before entering the MA would prove to be advantageous to most new guys.

A tiered sub amount may work to sweeten the deal as it would allow them to chose their level of involvement.

Remove the nearly empty arenas or consolidate them to remove the appearance of an "empty parking lot" and remove the max number from the arena population table. Just show the amount online.

time for chow, more to come later.


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+1

After about 2 weeks of flying spit5s. I can promise you they would resubscribe.

Yep.

[SPKmes]

My son and nephews like to play games... infact they are the true representation of the in your mothers basement people....  early to mid twenties ....  they like free.... and if they can't do ok  instantly they can it and blame , lag, cheaters, kittens...whatever for it not to be their suck. .. or more the point lack of skill... sure its a new game but I played such and such similar game... blah blah blah.... now that game gets dissed by them in that instant.... but after a few you tube game play views and the like they go in again till they have a spin attack because they suck.... eventually they gather enough skill to get into things and get hooked....
This however is a free game..they get to come and go as they please.. only they don't realise they are about to spend a years sub on upgrading themselves to be competitive....
I can tell them that game isn't free... look at what you have spent.... all types of excuses come out.... eventually they agree hmmm ...but walk away from the conversation and it is like you never spoke to them...

Many see $15 per month as omg .... they can't don't seem to understand that it is 50c a day.... and you get everything...

They all like aces high... but can't stand not being top of the game almost instantly.... and that problem is exasperated in AH at the moment. Because of the numbers there is a higher percentage of average player these days as opposed to when numbers were higher...

When the numbers were up there you had super uber.(not many).. uber. (a few more than the other).. good/ average.(again just a few more than the previous)..your getting there( the majority).. noob.... baby seal  and  fodder..most of the arena was at the you're getting there and lower... the average guy seemed wicked good back then...that is till you met the others...hahahaha

. Now we have, pretty damn good, average , noob and can't get off the runway .... and most of the arena is in the average pile with very few lower so finding an even fight is tough... also the things that people call others out on are more prevalent these days.... they were always around...just spread over far more...   

So back to my no hoper son and nephews....   they are a hard bunch to hook... but given the right opportunity they can get well hooked.... two week timer doesn't work... two weeks or set number of hours of actual online plying time could... as they keep coming back...log on timer starts...log off, timer stops.... it could take them three months to get through the time period... however they have time to run a little before you set the hook

[guncrasher]

After about 2 weeks of flying spit5s. I can promise you they would resubscribe.

Setting up the JS and mouse controls are always the hardest part.

Most need people have a really hard time in the MA when they are new. That's why a feeder fighter bowl that puts them right into quick action would do wonders at showing  them the game, getting them into a fight, and be able to ask questions in a smaller environment.

they dont last 15 minutes with all the planes available.  but sure if they see a spit5, they will drool and decide to stay.


semp

[CptTrips]

they dont last 15 minutes with all the planes available.  but sure if they see a spit5, they will drool and decide to stay.


semp

Semp, I'm curious.  Do you have any thoughts on how to reverse the downward player count trend? 

[guncrasher]

Semp, I'm curious.  Do you have any thoughts on how to reverse the downward player count trend?

nope, I have no idea.  but I do know that people that dont last 15 minutes in the game with all planes available, for sure wont stay if they get the spit5 for free.  and I mean the spit5 is part of all the free planes in those 2 weeks.  however I do believe some current subscribers will cancel and fly the spit5 for free and this game will be known as spit5 high.


semp