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Offline Triton28

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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2020, 01:30:41 PM »
With all due respect, Aces High has never lacked community involvement.  I'd go so far to say I've not played another game where paying customers contributed as much to the main parts of the game as what the AH community has.  Map design, skins (absolutely huge for a flight sim), new player training, and events are all handled either mostly or completely by paying customers who just want to contribute.  If there's now a lack of those folks to serve, I'd suggest it's a symptom of lower player numbers rather than a cause of it. 

And as for community toxicity, AH is normal or even tame compared to other games.  Daily players can be very competitive and the game itself lends itself to competition, so there is banter, but if you think the AH community is toxic I feel bad for your feelings if you actually go outside regularly.   
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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2020, 01:42:58 PM »
Nope.  But I'm willing to explore the questions rather than just sit and think happy thoughts.  I'm willing to admit there might be things that need to be changed or else we'd still have 700 players a night.

Just like most of us.

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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2020, 01:44:26 PM »

And as for community toxicity, AH is normal or even tame compared to other games.  Daily players can be very competitive and the game itself lends itself to competition, so there is banter, but if you think the AH community is toxic I feel bad for your feelings if you actually go outside regularly.   

Thanks for proving my point and the point made in some of the negative comments on steam.

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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2020, 01:50:34 PM »
Just like most of us.


Is it most?  It's certainly not all.  There is definitely a "shut up and think happy thoughts" vibe sometimes.

As if pointing out a problem is the same thing as having caused it, or ignoring a problem is the same thing as solving it.

Toxic, psychotic, self-aggrandizing drama queens simply aren't worth me spending my time on.

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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2020, 02:21:59 PM »
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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2020, 02:54:16 PM »
"Drastic" is apparently in the eye of the of the beholder.


Agreed... as is represented by this thread
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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2020, 03:10:13 PM »
There is a solid way for the AH community to help.  The very best of a collaborative effort.

We have so many players who are knowledgeable about the game.  Many are very good at helping new players.  The method that will work the best revolves around outside the game to give the new players the information they need before going into the game.

Utilizing social media, the AH community create a comprehensive focal platform dubbed "Aves High Learning Center" or a better title suggested.

AHLC is created in YouTube as a channel for the uploading of player made tutorials.
1) What is the game?
2) How to find the website?
3) How to navigate website?
4) How to download game from website?

From there, add more tutorials explaining the process to cover all the basics of the game.

Players who know how to edit movies can add the films to the channel for great marketing potential.

The AHLC also would have a tailored made free website (Wix) to help organize the tutorial videos in categories.  Whatever else needed to help.

The AHLC would also be linked in FB, Twitter and Snapchat for greater exposure.

A simple straight forward idea that just needs some volunteers who know how to do this.  Volunteers willing to take some time to do this. 
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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2020, 03:20:25 PM »
Again,  who are you trying to convince?
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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2020, 03:28:33 PM »
If you got something that is working, I'm a big fan of just keeping things steady and let the good times roll.  But when things aren't working, it seems to me eventually you need to be willing to roll the dice and risk change.  Unless you think the down trends are only temporary fluctuation or you believe in Tinkerbell and Magic.

The problem with this thinking is that most suggestions fall into one of two categories:

1. Things that have been tried before, and didn't work.
2. Changes that would make Aces High a completely different game.

If it didn't work before, there is no reason that it would work now.  (But things are different now)  Not that different.

We don't want a different game, we want this one to have more people.

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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2020, 03:29:08 PM »
124 players on last night at 12AM eastern.

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The single question is how can we reduce ganging? (We Cant). This game is incredibly  difficult when you have P51Ds and Yak3s with a Ki84 and La7 chasing you..unless you are in a 262 in some cases, it's almost impossible to escape that. I wish icon colors would change to show that you'd get an assist if you kill them, maybe that would reduce ganging. It's a natural phenomenon  that makes it tough. You wonder why there are so many runner and timid game players these days.

We can only do so much to reduce crap talkers. It's a high intense war game after all.


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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2020, 03:35:26 PM »
The problem with this thinking is that most suggestions fall into one of two categories:

1. Things that have been tried before, and didn't work.
2. Changes that would make Aces High a completely different game.

If it didn't work before, there is no reason that it would work now.  (But things are different now)  Not that different.

We don't want a different game, we want this one to have more people.

Times change.   Tools and mechanisms to address shortcomings in previous experiments are available to be used.  What used to work doesn't.   What didn't work then very well might NOW.

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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2020, 04:05:23 PM »

Is it most?  It's certainly not all.  There is definitely a "shut up and think happy thoughts" vibe sometimes.

As if pointing out a problem is the same thing as having caused it, or ignoring a problem is the same thing as solving it.

Does it have to be all? People get to disagree. It's not a problem for adults. 




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« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2020, 04:25:15 PM »
We don't want a different game, we want this one to have more people.

That's OK, man.  I'm sure the decade long downward numbers trend will suddenly reverse itself any day now, magically, all on it's own without needing to change the least little thing. 

All you have to do is not look at the bear.  ;)
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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2020, 04:41:55 PM »
Numbers are even lower in Warbirds. Is that for different reasons or the same ones?

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« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2020, 04:43:19 PM »
Numbers are even lower in Warbirds. Is that for different reasons or the same ones?

Does it have to be either?
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