I need your help, Fortress Europe Test this Saturday Night

[CptTrips]

The mission can be loaded in a Custom Player Arena.

Simply load the Rhinland Terrain in a Custom Arena, then go to Staged Missions, the mission should be in the list of Staged Missions. Select the mission and hit load.

Now, you can switch some England fields up to Axis and launch from A4 or A6 to make it quicker to find them.

Then start the mission, it will prompt you on when or delay. After it launches, roll from A4 or A6, and have at it.

When I get home tonight I can create a simple offine mission with the same settings we used and a LW spawn nice and close to the formation for easy quick testing.

Of course, it shouldn't be too easy for an individual attacker to approach a formation.  In an event the defensive fire is being slit between multiple attackers.

Note, when we had the initial hard gunnery settings, I was definitley getting shredded on HO passes.  Suprisingly so.  I had to limit myself to high angle diving 10-2 clk attacks.


It's a learning process. 

[Wiley]

When I get home tonight I can create a simple offine mission with the same settings we used and a LW spawn nice and close to the formation for easy quick testing.

Of course, it shouldn't be too easy for an individual attacker to approach a formation.  In an event the defensive fire is being slit between multiple attackers.

Note, when we had the initial hard gunnery settings, I was definitley getting shredded on HO passes.  Suprisingly so.  I had to limit myself to high angle diving 10-2 clk attacks.


It's a learning process. 

Sounds like the hard setting is about on par with what you have to do against the better human gunners.  The easier it is to set up your gunnery, the easier it is for them to set up theirs.

Wiley.

[snugar109]

My testing experience was a slash attack across the entire formation from 4K above them and 9-3 oclock, no hits or damage to me but ack was going all over the place and I peppered them pretty well. Did a uturn after gaining some alt back and slashed through again from 11 - 6 oclock. Still no damage to me. I did saddle up on a B17 on the left side since the formation was pulling away from me and managed to bring that one down but got shot to pieces in the process by him and his friends. They got my eng, right aileron and placed some nice air conditioning in my wings. Managed to land it then reupped but couldn't take up a 190D again. I had to change planes then reupped and went back at them but noticed frame rates got so low for about 5 mins otw back that if I had a fight it would have been bad for me. Frame rates seemed to fix themselves and I was still otw back but then there were no more B17's.

[CptTrips]

My testing experience was a slash attack across the entire formation from 4K above them and 9-3 oclock, no hits or damage to me but ack was going all over the place and I peppered them pretty well. Did a uturn after gaining some alt back and slashed through again from 11 - 6 oclock. Still no damage to me. I did saddle up on a B17 on the left side since the formation was pulling away from me and managed to bring that one down but got shot to pieces in the process by him and his friends. They got my eng, right aileron and placed some nice air conditioning in my wings. Managed to land it then reupped but couldn't take up a 190D again. I had to change planes then reupped and went back at them but noticed frame rates got so low for about 5 mins otw back that if I had a fight it would have been bad for me. Frame rates seemed to fix themselves and I was still otw back but then there were no more B17's.

That doesn't sound too unreasonable.  The biggest concern was making to gunner too deadly.  That is the typical complaint agains AI bombers.  I think we can use that dispersion variable to dial-in the optimal range.  We jsut need to play with it.  I'm thinking it needs to be bumped up just a tad from what we ran in that test, IMHO.  Not much.

I hit a bad frame rate period also near the end.  I don't even think I was near the bombers at the time.  Weird.  Maybe that was when the last of the AI were killed and the server was unloading the mission. 

During the battle when there were bombers and gunners firing and escorts around, was the FPS OK then?  (I was way behind the formation most of hte time covering some stragglers.)


 

[snugar109]

I hit a bad frame rate period also near the end.  I don't even think I was near the bombers at the time.  Weird.  Maybe that was when the last of the AI were killed and the server was unloading the mission. 

During the battle when there were bombers and gunners firing and escorts around, was the FPS OK then?  (I was way behind the formation most of hte time covering some stragglers.)

I was thinking the same about the server and logs being recorded as the reason for the FPS issue. I was a ways away and flying through mud.

During the battle, flying across that island of B-17s, I did't have any frame rate issues at all. Everything seemed fine during all my attacks and gliding to a nearby base. It was just when I re-upped and was maybe 1/2 way back I noticed the FPS bog down.

[Nefarious]

I'm curious if it was the fact that the bombers were bailing out?

[snugar109]

Quite possible, not sure how all that works but it was very near the end. I was racing back trying to get a few more.

[Alpo]

I'm curious if it was the fact that the bombers were bailing out?

They were dropping like flies at the end...

21:53:04 Shot down a B-17G flown by AI38.
21:53:11 Shot down a Chute flown by AI48.
21:53:21 Shot down a Chute flown by AI53.
21:53:27 Shot down a Chute flown by AI37.

I wish I was that good to be able to hit a chute with the 57mm! 

[CptTrips]

They were dropping like flies at the end...

21:53:04 Shot down a B-17G flown by AI38.
21:53:11 Shot down a Chute flown by AI48.
21:53:21 Shot down a Chute flown by AI53.
21:53:27 Shot down a Chute flown by AI37.

I wish I was that good to be able to hit a chute with the 57mm! 

Chute-shooter shall be prosecuted!!!!