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AI Parachutes Show as FIghter Icons
« on: January 20, 2020, 11:47:20 AM »

In the FE tes twe ran, at the end we saw a long conga line of fighter icons on our radar.  We finally figured they were AI parachutes of downed bombers along the route. 

It's weird that they would show on radar at all and confusing as they showed up as fighter icons. 

I was like "WTF are all the escorts doing way back there?!?!?"   :rofl
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Re: AI Parachutes Show as FIghter Icons
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2020, 12:21:56 PM »
Just FYI the same applies with player chutes.  You can see it in the MA.

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Re: AI Parachutes Show as FIghter Icons
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2020, 12:27:01 PM »
Just FYI the same applies with player chutes.  You can see it in the MA.

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Ah.  Didn't realize that.  Weird.  Kind of misleading.  Can't really thing of any benefit.

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Re: AI Parachutes Show as FIghter Icons
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2020, 12:50:33 PM »
The only upside I can see is it's kind of nice to know the guy bailed as opposed to went NOE.  I'm sure that's not an explicitly desired behavior.  It looks to me like a case that wasn't considered particularly when we moved to little airplanes and bomber icons on the map.

I wonder if a chute showed on dar back then?  Otherwise maybe they should just not show.

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Re: AI Parachutes Show as FIghter Icons
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2020, 01:38:14 PM »
The only upside I can see is it's kind of nice to know the guy bailed as opposed to went NOE.  I'm sure that's not an explicitly desired behavior.  It looks to me like a case that wasn't considered particularly when we moved to little airplanes and bomber icons on the map.

I wonder if a chute showed on dar back then?  Otherwise maybe they should just not show.

Wiley.

I would think a man in a chute would be very hard for the radar of the time to track.  However, our dar represents an amalgamation of sources including radar and ground observers.  So it doesn't see unreasonable that there would be something, but perhaps not a fighter aircraft icon.  Maybe a little chute symbol. 

The other issue is I don't think they ever de-spawn while the mission runs.  They land and just stand there on the ground maintaining a icon on the map.  Maybe chute icons shouldn't show once feet on ground.

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Re: AI Parachutes Show as FIghter Icons
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2020, 01:42:01 PM »
I would think a man in a chute would be very hard for the radar of the time to track.  However, our dar represents an amalgamation of sources including radar and ground observers.  So it doesn't see unreasonable that there would be something, but perhaps not a fighter aircraft icon.  Maybe a little chute symbol. 

The other issue is I don't think they ever de-spawn while the mission runs.  They land and just stand there on the ground maintaining a icon on the map.  Maybe chute icons shouldn't show once feet on ground.

Just thinking about a possible fix, arena settings- Do chutes obey minimum alt dot dar settings?  Does that apply to the dar that shows in the 6k radius around players?

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Re: AI Parachutes Show as FIghter Icons
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2020, 03:05:18 PM »
Just thinking about a possible fix, arena settings- Do chutes obey minimum alt dot dar settings?  Does that apply to the dar that shows in the 6k radius around players?

Wiley.

That all needs more testing.  I wasn't near them when I saw them on the dar, but they were friendlies, so I would see them any way.

I never got eye on.  Someone on channel reported they were chutes on the ground.  We certainly didn't have that many fighters.  It might be the one on the  didn't map to an icon.  They bailed from 22k, so maybe the icons were ones still floating down.   :D

Regardless, don't show a fighter icon.  Show a chute icon. 
 
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