China?

[perdue3]

Its cheaper due to child labor, 50 cents an hour, 16 hour days 7 days a week, and this thing called osha does not exist

So you understand then. It is cheaper.

[guncrasher]

the first thing about paying extra is you always pay extra one way or another.  when I moved to NC, everybody was happy because to register your car was only 20 bucks.  while in california it would cost about 200.  good trade right?  guess what, NC has a road tax that everybody has to pay to drive at tax time, it was about 200 bucks.

so in reality we didnt get a lower rate on car registration, in name we did, but we ended up paying the same and sometimes even more.

I could think of at least 5 states that have a lower max tax rate than california where I would actually pay more than I pay in california.


semp

[Copprhed]

I love how the right wingers think they getcha when they post their numbers and the imagined deductions from them. Kind of like thinking Flynn is a hero, not a traitorous cad who confessed to betraying the country.

[Shuffler]

It is a very simple concept. Rice can be made here and is made here. To make rice in the US is very expensive, some of the most expensive crops we can raise here. In China, their climate is much better suited for it and their mode of production is cheaper (labor costs). If we only consumed US grown rice it would be scarce and super expensive. We export much of our rice and we profit from it, meanwhile we import Chinese and Asian rice because it is so much cheaper. This is logically sound and financially smart. Are you willing to work in a rice field at minimum wage? We can't have a strict labor immigration policy, high minimum wage, AND consume our own crops. That is not sustainable.

Uncle Bens  ships rice all over the world.

[Ramesis]

Nationalism is never really about 'putting our country first.' Nationalism has always been about scapegoating/blaming elements within society that politically threaten one's ideology with such scapegoating involving prejudice, greed, corruption and persecution. Any student of history or politics clearly sees this. It's waving a flag to stir up the masses for a false cause while claiming righteousness. WWII was won by globalization, not nationalization.

There was a nationalistic movement prior to WWII that modeled itself after Hitler's Nazi party. I'm sure they all saw themselves as 'patriots.'

I am not advocating nationalism for the sake of conquering... I just want u to realize how far the U.S. has gone from putting itself first and putting
other countries above... if the collective u cannot see this then the U.S. is truly doomed and so globalism will take over
 

[Ramesis]

You're confusing colonialism

Are u serious? Since when did colonialism NOT involve war and revolution?

[Ramesis]

It's not a different economic system, it's a different distribution ideology. China has been successfully practicing capitalism for quite a while.

Good Gawd Arlo... do u even know the definition of communism? It IS an economic system where the government owns  and runs the economic system of
its country... AND by extension owns and runs its citizens... I think u must be younger than I and fallen prey to teachers and profs of whatever college/university
u went to or are going to
 

[Arlo]

Calm down, Ram. 

[Nwbie]

Yet there are millionaires with individual monies.. sounds like capitalism to me...

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/21/china-overtakes-us-in-rankings-of-worlds-richest-people

Good Gawd Arlo... do u even know the definition of communism? It IS an economic system where the government owns  and runs the economic system of
its country... AND by extension owns and runs its citizens... I think u must be younger than I and fallen prey to teachers and profs of whatever college/university
u went to or are going to
 

[Busher]

It IS an economic system where the government owns  and runs the economic system of
its country... AND by extension owns and runs its citizens

That's a stretch if I ever saw one.

[Arlo]

It's all good. Ram, here's hoping you're wrong about war in the making. This would not bode well, especially under current circumstances. Thanks for this wonderful and insightful thread. 

[DmonSlyr]

Yet there are millionaires with individual monies.. sounds like capitalism to me...

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/21/china-overtakes-us-in-rankings-of-worlds-richest-people

 China has a class system and a social score ran by phone apps. The CCP could literally cut any person off at any time for any reason necessary. They have more in poverty than the entire population of the US x2. They have almost 0 internet rights. You will only be a millionaire if the ccp allows you to. You are owned by them. You have 0 rights. They own your business and your house. They can take it away any time for any reason. It is not individual free enterprise capitalism like America. They have total control of every level of the economic monetary system. Feudalism is NOT capitalism.

 

[Busher]

China has a class system and a social score ran by phone apps. The CCP could literally cut any person off at any time for any reason necessary. They have more in poverty than the entire population of the US x2. They have almost 0 internet rights. You will only be a millionaire if the ccp allows you to. You are owned by them. You have 0 rights. They own your business and your house. They can take it away any time for any reason. It is not individual free enterprise capitalism like America. They have total control of every level of the economic monetary system. Feudalism is NOT capitalism.

Once this pandemic crisis calms down, you might want to visit. It was part of my job but I found the country to be like all the other countries of the world. Their cities are quite cosmopolitan; I saw no more wealth nor poverty than I have seen at home. Of course there is a class system... show me a country in the world where there isn't one. Please don't try to tell me that the laws of this land apply equally. It is obvious though that there always seems to be a hidden suggestion that the Chinese people are some form of sub-human.

[Chalenge]

"Falun Gong," all I have to say.

[100Coogn]

"Falun Gong," all I have to say.

And there's the religion part...

Coogan