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Re: CAF Skins
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2020, 07:25:48 PM »
what is NMF?

Natural metal finish.

To Varciu ... may ought to skin it per the CAF/Hitech spec/request or you'll just be wasting your time and theirs. Just saying. Have fun and good luck.

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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2020, 07:59:03 PM »
Natural metal finish.

To Varciu ... may ought to skin it per the CAF/Hitech spec/request or you'll just be wasting your time and theirs. Just saying. Have fun and good luck.

I had no intention of doing otherwise, however, having to transition from NMF to their silver paint is going to be a steep learning curve for me.    I'll take any input from the gang on how to mimic the silver lacquer on that P-51C.   I'm still wrestling with the markings where the nose comes together so no rush.
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Re: CAF Skins
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2020, 12:27:58 AM »
Hey Vraciu, have you seen the following website that shows the P-51C "Tuskegee Airmen"

https://cafriseabove.org/aircraft/

there is a pic of Col. Gray standing beside the P-51C at this webpage

https://cafriseabove.org/leo-roger-gray/


my old pictures of that same P-51C from back around 2000/2001 are as if it was chrome dipped panels, heh....

maybe the pics of the C model mustang at the above webpages will be of help to you...
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Re: CAF Skins
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2020, 02:57:39 AM »
I wouldn't worry too much about NMF v silver painted finish Vraciu. I'm just going to switch off the layers on my B-29 template that show the tone variation between different individual panels as well as the layer for the darker silver painted areas that I use for NMF aircraft B-29 skins.

The issue is more a question of how polished the finish is. The CAF's silver-painted B-29 looks to have a relatively dull finish compared to many WW2 B-29 photos I have seen, but their P-51 looks a bit more shiny and polished than the WW2 finish. So the specular, environmental and power maps will need to be adjusted one way or the other to match the required finish.

My MA version of the C-47 will lack the CAF logos and will have a duller finish to the paint. I'll also add back all the paint chips and dirt that I'm turning off for the CAF version.

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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2020, 08:30:27 AM »
Thanks everyone for the info.

G, my panel variations are baked in as I ran out of  layers on Paint Shop.   At the time the easiest solution was to merge the metal layers in question.   Had I seen your build log my Mustang template would be organized far differently that's for sure.
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Re: CAF Skins
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2020, 01:35:13 PM »
I've done the CAF C-47 and B-29 skins and will email them to the support page tomorrow.




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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2020, 06:09:39 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2020, 06:35:04 PM »
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Re: CAF Skins
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2020, 07:36:23 PM »
Nice work, G!  :)


(I'll have the Mustang done tomorrow.  I'm zeroing in on the paint color for the silver.  Otherwise it's just about finished.)
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« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2020, 07:37:12 PM »
One nitpick.  I believe the overwing markings are actually a pretty bright white on "FIFI" if I recall.


Edit in: Also the spinners are shiny now.   Again, minor stuff.

http://warbirdsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/FIFI-Scott-Slocum-photo.jpg

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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2020, 02:54:53 AM »
Looking at various photos I don't think the wing walkways are white, but you are right they should be lighter than they are so I'll alter that. The front of the cowls and the fabric surfaces are a fair bit shinier than the rest of the silver on my skin but I overlooked the spinners so that will be fixed too. Thank you for pointing these issues out.

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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2020, 03:04:38 AM »
You’re welcome.  Glad to help.   :cheers:

They used to be white but it’s been a long time since Boeing repainted her.   The smudges from black soled boots have taken a toll.

The spinners used to be black but after Cavanaugh helped them get some new engines they went to being polished.
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« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2020, 10:22:01 AM »
I've done the CAF C-47 and B-29 skins and will email them to the support page tomorrow.

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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2020, 10:47:32 PM »
All done.

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