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Offline Vraciu

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Re: Les Vin, Les Femmes et Les Chansons
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2020, 12:49:45 AM »
Lol!

You guys are hilarious!

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Re: Les Vin, Les Femmes et Les Chansons
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2020, 06:27:12 AM »
Thanks for the feedback guys. I have slightly altered the colour balance of my bare metal colour away from red and towards green and then taken another screenshot from a similar angle. The upper screenshot is the original, the lower screenshot is the revised version. Does the new colour seem better to you?

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Re: Les Vin, Les Femmes et Les Chansons
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2020, 08:32:20 AM »
Yeah, that looks better, Greebo.
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Re: Les Vin, Les Femmes et Les Chansons
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2020, 08:34:19 AM »
It looks different.

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Re: Les Vin, Les Femmes et Les Chansons
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2020, 08:37:24 AM »
Much better. :aok
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Re: Les Vin, Les Femmes et Les Chansons
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2020, 09:54:59 AM »
Good looking skin. I didn't notice the purple tinge until V said something. I don't see it on the updated version btw.  :cheers:

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Re: Les Vin, Les Femmes et Les Chansons
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2020, 10:29:46 AM »
Looks better.   I might take it half again as far as you did in your last adjustment and it will be heart-stopping perfection.  It has the slightest bit of purple and maybe blue.  Just a hair.   Not a lot.


Regardless this is a great improvement.   Looks really nice.
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Re: Les Vin, Les Femmes et Les Chansons
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2020, 09:24:48 PM »
On my phone I see little if any difference. On my computer/TV it looks slightly less purple.

I am kind of thinking this is one of those optical illusions where if someone says a color, everyone can see it. It looks very good and if I stare at it awhile, I start seeing more of a purple.
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Re: Les Vin, Les Femmes et Les Chansons
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2020, 09:28:48 PM »
On my phone I see little if any difference. On my computer/TV it looks slightly less purple.

I am kind of thinking this is one of those optical illusions where if someone says a color, everyone can see it. It looks very good and if I stare at it awhile, I start seeing more of a purple.

It’s not an illusion.    The new metal is better.   

I can see it on all my devices and comparing the two screenshots side by side it is evident there is a difference. 

Some people (obviously) perceive colors differently than others so not everyone will see the same thing.

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Re: Les Vin, Les Femmes et Les Chansons
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2020, 10:59:07 PM »
Looks great!

I use to do photo color correcting for stainless steel cookware, was a very fine line to keep it neutral. We always went a tad warm rather than cold, it’s a colorless material that reflects what’s around it. I’d say it’s personal preference as to what’s right.

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Re: Les Vin, Les Femmes et Les Chansons
« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2020, 02:34:34 AM »
I think this may be something related to the in-game lighting, as to my eyes the original metal doesn't appear to have this tint in Paint Shop Pro or the skin viewer, even on the same monitor. I'll shift the metal a little bit more to the green but I don't want to take it too far that way.

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Re: Les Vin, Les Femmes et Les Chansons
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2020, 08:24:45 AM »
Last night in VR I noticed purplish-pink splotches on the silver-painted wing top surface of on of my P-51 skins.  I didn't check the others, or check it outside of VR.  But I have flown in VR before with this plane and never noticed the splotches before.  I wonder if some aspect of ingame lighting has changed?

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Re: Les Vin, Les Femmes et Les Chansons
« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2020, 08:53:00 AM »
It could be just that you weren't looking for it before, Vraciu noticed it on another of my skins a while back.

The original metal colour I used was RGB 122/122/135, so basically a blue tinted medium grey. Even with brown dirt layers on top the metal areas were not shifted towards red when I used a colour picker in Paint Shop Pro. So if your base metal colour also has red and green equally balanced then I'd expect a similar result to mine in the game. The second revision to my metal colour is now RGB 119/125/134, the very slight greenish tint looks a little odd in PSP but it disappears in the game.

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Re: Les Vin, Les Femmes et Les Chansons
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2020, 10:41:44 AM »
It could be just that you weren't looking for it before, Vraciu noticed it on another of my skins a while back.

The original metal colour I used was RGB 122/122/135, so basically a blue tinted medium grey. Even with brown dirt layers on top the metal areas were not shifted towards red when I used a colour picker in Paint Shop Pro. So if your base metal colour also has red and green equally balanced then I'd expect a similar result to mine in the game. The second revision to my metal colour is now RGB 119/125/134, the very slight greenish tint looks a little odd in PSP but it disappears in the game.

I've always seen it.   I mentioned it privately awhile back and you said you thought it was lighting, but I know it isn't.  So now that you're on a new shape I brought it up again. 

The skin viewer lighting does not match the game.   This has long frustrated me.

Do what you think best.  The adjustment is a big Improvement and I think that's the consensus among those who weighed in. 

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Re: Les Vin, Les Femmes et Les Chansons
« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2020, 10:52:32 AM »
To rephrase, yes, it IS lighting of a sort.   Our diffuse files are interpreted and displayed by the graphics engine.  This changes how they look which means you have to do stuff to your artwork in order to compensate.  It looks weird when you're working on it but winds up looking okay in the game.
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