Author Topic: Maj. Edwin W. Hiro - P-51D "Horse's Itch" (B6*D) - 357th FG, 363 FS v2  (Read 1452 times)

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Re: Maj. Edwin W. Hiro - P-51D "Horse's Itch" (B6*D) - 357th FG, 363 FS v2
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2023, 01:58:20 AM »
Nicely done Vraciu, a worthwhile improvement.

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Re: Maj. Edwin W. Hiro - P-51D "Horse's Itch" (B6*D) - 357th FG, 363 FS v2
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2023, 10:21:29 AM »
Thanks guys.  I just keep tweaking it here and there.  Had a layer missing in that screenshot.  I added and uploaded.

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Re: Maj. Edwin W. Hiro - P-51D "Horse's Itch" (B6*D) - 357th FG, 363 FS v2
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2023, 05:55:40 PM »
I added back the missing layer which contained canopy latches and some hatch panel lines as well as the metal border where the side windows are located.  I also upped the sheen level just a bit on the S map.   It shows up more in the game than in this screenshot but the effect makes a positive difference.

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Re: Maj. Edwin W. Hiro - P-51D "Horse's Itch" (B6*D) - 357th FG, 363 FS v2
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2023, 06:03:18 PM »
Looks great!   

What's the small grey patch on the trailing edge of the wing-fuselage fillet (below the '6')?

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Re: Maj. Edwin W. Hiro - P-51D "Horse's Itch" (B6*D) - 357th FG, 363 FS v2
« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2023, 06:12:01 PM »
Thanks man.

That is part of the invasion stripe that goes on the the wing-to-fuselage fairing.   In the 3-D model, oddly enough, as you rotate around the skin that section of the wing moves/wiggles and gives it a really strange effect.   From some angles it is lined up like it should be but as you rotate the skin it moves out of alignment.   It's hard to explain but if you download the skin offline (I think it is P51D_30) into the skin viewer via SAVE TEXTURES and mess with it you will see what I mean.

I'm open to any suggestions as to how to hide that better but I think it is just the way it was modeled.    There isn't a true fairing there it is more of a 90 degree junction.
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Re: Maj. Edwin W. Hiro - P-51D "Horse's Itch" (B6*D) - 357th FG, 363 FS v2
« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2023, 06:17:46 PM »
I thought it might be tape from a reference photo, or maybe somehow some of your texture got clipped and the background color was showing.   

I'm not familiar with the effect you're trying to conceal (been a while since I've skinned a Mustang).  But I do have one coming up soon so I'll watch for funny stuff in that area....

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Re: Maj. Edwin W. Hiro - P-51D "Horse's Itch" (B6*D) - 357th FG, 363 FS v2
« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2023, 06:22:23 PM »
Here's the other fun fact.   Even though the striping is all the same color it is very difficult to match up because the light is hitting at different angles all over the place.   There is a concave indentation along with the curves on the wing and the flat plate of the fuselage all coming together in one spot.  It's a nightmare.  LOL

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Re: Maj. Edwin W. Hiro - P-51D "Horse's Itch" (B6*D) - 357th FG, 363 FS v2
« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2023, 06:24:27 PM »
The game model has this wing-to-fuselage junction pinched INWARD but it is actually opposite that on the real plane.

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Re: Maj. Edwin W. Hiro - P-51D "Horse's Itch" (B6*D) - 357th FG, 363 FS v2
« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2023, 06:31:57 PM »
Oh I see now.   Your illusion looks good from those angles.   The color just appears more grey to than the white stripe, but I'll bet it changes with different aspect angles and lighting...

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Re: Maj. Edwin W. Hiro - P-51D "Horse's Itch" (B6*D) - 357th FG, 363 FS v2
« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2023, 07:40:51 PM »
Oh I see now.   Your illusion looks good from those angles.   The color just appears more grey to than the white stripe, but I'll bet it changes with different aspect angles and lighting...

That's the exact problem. 
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