Photo Help - P-38J "Miss Ann"

[Vraciu]

Any ideas on the top color?








https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235089632-p-38-night-intruder/

[lyric1]

By all accounts green.





I believe this is a sister aircraft of the same squadron same underside black paint, never found anymore information on it.



Prior or after the black paint?

[Lazerr]

Man that is a cool looking theme.

I hope one of you guys update the J with the snakes on the booms in the future as well.  That was one of my favorites after 80th skins.

[oboe]

Nice find!  That WILL be a cool-looking skin.

Lazer I *think* there is a snake-boomed P-38 there now?   Grebo did it IIRC, but used a dark British green for the snake's body.   I'll have to look again.

I just flew the '38 for the first time in a while last night.   

[Greebo]

Miss Ann was almost certainly olive drab with jet black undersides.

I've already done an 80th FS P-38J with the snakes and also an 80th FS P-38L without them as they'd stopped using the snake art by this time. I will be doing a P-38G with the snake art later.

[Vraciu]

Thank you for the feedback. 


My only question is, why is the 38 in the background so much darker if both are olive drab / green?

[Devil 505]

Probably just a case of the B/W film capturing differently faded shaded of OD differently.

A color example of just how varied OD can get in the same environment:

[Vraciu]

Okay, I'll go with that. 

Thanks.

[Guppy35]

Miss Ann was almost certainly olive drab with jet black undersides.

I've already done an 80th FS P-38J with the snakes and also an 80th FS P-38L without them as they'd stopped using the snake art by this time. I will be doing a P-38G with the snake art later.

That's 80th FG from the CBI, 80th FS, not that I'm partial, was 5th AF in the PTO  No snakes on the 8th FS Headhunter 38s

[Vraciu]

Are there any higher res versions of the photos I posted?   I’m not sure the vertical stabilizer and rudder are entirely black like the profile shows...

[lyric1]

Are there any higher res versions of the photos I posted?   I’m not sure the vertical stabilizer and rudder are entirely black like the profile shows...

Only two images I have ever found.
Since there is no right side image known is the profile wrong?   

[lyric1]

My only question is, why is the 38 in the background so much darker if both are olive drab / green?

Was looking a little closer at the Britmodeller site it has a book listed for this unit.
I have this book it has a brief description in it that explains the P-38 in the background I believe.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0709010435/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1







I doubt the description above was for "Miss Ann". They did lose a third  P-38 this might have been the bare metal upper and black lower plane with the lightning flash on the cockpit nose.

[Vraciu]

Was looking a little closer at the Britmodeller site it has a book listed for this unit.
I have this book it has a brief description in it that explains the P-38 in the background I believe.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0709010435/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1





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I doubt the description above was for "Miss Ann". They did lose a third  P-38 this might have been the bare metal upper and black lower plane with the lightning flash on the cockpit nose.

Gray?

This muddles things some doesn't it?

[Guppy35]

IF you can search the Skins threads, this one was talked about previously.  There were 2 51Bs and 2 38s, but they didn't last long as they proved to be unsuitable for the operations.

[Vraciu]

IF you can search the Skins threads, this one was talked about previously.  There were 2 51Bs and 2 38s, but they didn't last long as they proved to be unsuitable for the operations.

I read that one Master Bomber felt the P-38 was superior to the Mosquito in the role. 

Thanks for the lead.