People with lower end systems (like Hajo) that don't have VR and don't want to build a new system? GV'rs who don't like trees? Old players that might enjoy coming back just for the nostalgia?
Hajo is like those you call nostalgic and he DID come back. He didnt leave because his computer couldnt handle it, he left again because there isnt the same fun any more. Those that play dont play like we use to in the old days so it just doesnt have the same "pazazz" it use to. He wont upgrade his computer to do VR because he knows the the game play waits and VR wont cure that.
You say no one will like AH2 but you then say it will empty out AH3?
I say it might bring back old players who didn't like AHIII.
I say it might bring in some players who didn't like subscriptions and give you a chance to convince over time.
Did you read the points I made in the provided link? Rather than have to repeat them?
I was going off what the OP suggested when spliting the arena/blade He was hoping for 400 in AH2 and 100 In AH3 I dont think we will ever see those numbers again even if the game was free and had unlimited advertising. Yes I read the other post, I think its all a dream. While Im sure HTC has AH2 on an old drive someplace I very much doubt he'd put it out again unless its a "last breath" type thing. Even with a one time feethere just isnt going to be enough intrest in an old game with crappy graphics.
Max, the problem I see with 9.95/mo is that it still turns off all those players out there that don't like subscriptions. They might drop a one time $19.99 or something. I've bought a ton of games for a one time purchase that it would have been VERY difficult for me to be talked into a subscription.
Hook'em with a one time purchase of the older version. The reel them in with "oh man, but it is so much better over in AHIII! Go give that a try!"
They will have at least had a chance over a couple of months to really learn to fly and fight in AHII without a subscription and meet people coming over from AHIII for an occasional nostalgia trip. Maybe forming friendships. Maybe joining a squd who's main activity is over in AHIII. Think of it as a stealth outreach program.
I see current players adding it not converting back to it exclusively.
On the other hand, maybe it can get you some players that you are failing to convince with a 2-week trial and the friction of an on-going subscription. As well as put some money in your pocket to get some AHIII work or advertising done. The cost in bandwidth and hardware would be inconsequential. Especially with only 150 players in the AHIII active.
It doesn't even require anything scary to change in AHIII for all those who fear change. There are never guarantees anything will ever work. But at some point a drowning man has to be willing to at least lift a finger to try and save themselves. Do SOMETHING. Try SOMETHING. If you are going to go down, go down exercising some free agency. Go down fighting. Just don't lay down like this was a hospice waiting for your personal RIP thread.
Or just default to the usual
"that will never work"
"can't try that"
"that's not guaranteed to work"
"no point in trying"
"Oh look another skins pack. That's all we need."
Crap nevermind. I forgot I'm not supposed to care anymore.
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I agree with the last, Id love to see him try something, anything even if it just a little something as a thankyou to all of us who have been sending him money month in and month out for 20 years. Get rid of most of the trees, get rid of the big maps.
Read back thru this thread Fugi. A number of comments mention GV fights in AH2 as being more prolific, as well as a disdain for navigating the forest we have now. While the present day clouds, water and general land rendering is a step above in AH3, it also required those with older GPU's to upgrade or fall by the wayside. Quite a few did just that. I can't comment on VR as I've been reluctant to invest $500 +/- on the hardware. Those who crave it have it fully available in Melee. Just as a personal side note, I found it much easier to walk in tracers in AH2. Perhaps my eyes were better then but at age 69 I have difficulty with the tracers/sprites/hits.
My computer is 10 years old I7, 16 MB ram, Nvidia GTX 1060 it run my quest2 with ease. At 62 I dont shoot any better with it, but it sure makes dieing a lot more fun.
Perhaps, but Pony D's, La7's , Dora's and Dash 4-U's won't be leading the retreats...and perhaps new and old players will try on aircraft they never before experienced.
Your just changing to runners, instead of ponies it will be a P38, or KI84 doing the running and thats what people will be using to chase them.
[quot]Also, creating another arena is only going to split the low population and give us LESS players per arena.
To the contrary, I believe any depletion from Melee to AH2 would be short lived, and overall, new blood would populate the game.
Dropping the sub may help, but now your cutting into Hitechs money and if he is just getting by as it is that will only bring the end quicker.
No one, including myself said anything about rolling planesets.
Your opinion. The fact remains that the game as it now stands is losing ground on a steady slippery slope. My goal is to prevent that from ending the game due to the player attrition and INCREASE revenue streams to HTC.
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Eagler mentioned rolling plane sets.
I agree is losing ground, I have been saying it for some time now. Unfortunately Hitech seem reluctant to make ANY changes. Maybe he's afriad any change will finish off what he has now. Maybe he just doesnt want to be bothered with old grumps any more. Maybe he's busy working in a new field, who knows.
I'd love to see some changes just for the sake of something different like in the old days when a new plane, vehicle or graphic animation came along.
